WoD Loot Needs Fixing

[Buff_Archer]

I've geared up my Bard on left side and don't need anything from WoD on that class anymore, so now I'm running as Dragoon. But I don't think I've seen Dragoon loot in WoD no matter what class I was on at the time. Though I did manage to get caster shoes while on DRG last week... I probably wouldn't have gotten those if not for weekly lockout since I'm the only one who rolled on them, I hope that's here to stay for a little while longer.

[RyuRoots]

I've geared up my Bard on left side and don't need anything from WoD on that class anymore, so now I'm running as Dragoon. But I don't think I've seen Dragoon loot in WoD no matter what class I was on at the time. Though I did manage to get caster shoes while on DRG last week... I probably wouldn't have gotten those if not for weekly lockout since I'm the only one who rolled on them, I hope that's here to stay for a little while longer.

Is....is that a joke? *every* WoD run is flooded with ninja and dragoon gear for me, the ironic thing being that those are almost never in any WoD parties I've done though I obviously see them elsewhere.

[Culfinrandir]

Is....is that a joke? *every* WoD run is flooded with ninja and dragoon gear for me, the ironic thing being that those are almost never in any WoD parties I've done though I obviously see them elsewhere.

It's as if the server checks the party make up and chooses the least appropriate drop. It's not unusual to see four ninja pieces in one run when the team may have only one ninja (or even non, like you say). Surely they could programme some intelligence in, like the did in games decades ago.

[Synestr]

Or like they said they did for previous coils, where supposedly, the party composition was checked and then rolled against to generate loot. I use the term "Supposedly" very, very loosely.

[ZukoDawg]

Your not alone on this mate. On PHX server I've been running the ST, WOD lines for lights over and over. After about 40ish some runs this week, 80% of the time loot has either been MNK or DRG. A few BRD's, a random healer and tank gear but those are the exception. I asked within my FC to see if this was the case for others and sure enough it was. RNG certainly seems to have a favored set it offers either in awarding the same folks or awarding the same gear sets run after run. Either way its sucky ^^

[BreathlessTao]

...what I'm baffled at that so many people replying in here don't (or just don't want to?) realise/consider, is the fact that not everyone has the kind of free time to spend so much of it on only farming one dungeon for one specific (set or piece of) gear. Bully for you if you can do it 50-100-500 times a week, but that's not how it is for everyone else. Sure if you're all-50, with the best gear for all (or whatever gear you'd want), and you basically don't have anything else to do than the top tier raid that's on weekly lockout and farm for glamours - awesome. But a lot of us are not in those shoes. For a lot of us, there's still levelling (and gearing) up other classes. For a lot of us, there are still actual story or side quests to do. For a lot of us, there's now Gold Saucer. For a lot of us, there's fishing. For a lot of us, there's PvP. For a lot of us, grinding the same exact content continuously for days/weeks/months is just too monotonous a task. The list goes on - and quite a lot of this has become quite heavily dependent on RNG.

And yes, I do think we all know that RNG has been a part of (MMO)RPGs for ever.

That's not the issue, sure, have it in there, it does spice things up. It's the amount of it that's seen such a huge increase lately, and especially in a game that started out as being touted extremely casual friendly, that is a problem. (Indeed, this is a game, only one game, there probably are others people would want to play; then there are other activities to kick back and have fun, and hey, y'know, there's also this thing called life we have to live...) But when there is such a large pool of items for such a little number of chests, it just becomes too hectic. It becomes too unreal. It becomes less and less fun, more and more frustration. Even more so if you consider proportions: tank has a 100% of getting their drop if they want it; healer is down to 50% if they both want it; DPS in a worst case scenario can be down to 25% - and that's only assuming that another RNG (the loot they want appearing) already favoured them. With that in mind, I really don't understand why it is so unreasonable to ask for a system that's a little fairer. Do it n times, get a token you can exchange for whichever item you need/want. And don't even argue about this being the lazy way that would make people leave the whole thing for the week once they geit their stuff - that is already happening, often with the people just leaving in progress too, without any alternative to the RNG being there (indeed, doing the whole thing n times might actually be more work than someone getting their drop and leaving their <nth run in-progress). Or have a system that considers current party setup. Or have, maybe if not all, but like two of the four chests drop two items instead of one.

People going on about others feeling "entitled" to whatever - when they themselves act that way, because they've "worked" for their stuff and thus so should everyone else. Newsflash: when you're doing the same dungeon for the 9000th time, it's not work anymore, because you can do it blindfolded. Because you've done it so many times. And winning a lottery (RNG) is not "working" either. Having an alternative option to the direct farming will not stop people going back there, especially if it's about helping friends or FC/LS mates. Heck, it even encourages that, because there's something "solid" they know will yield them something, if the random method doesn't work out. Getting sick and tired of doing the same place over and over again, with nothing to show for it except the time spent though? Yeah, that will stop people going there.



PS: PLEASE REMOVE THE CHARACTER LIMIT, IT IS OF NO USE, ONLY ANNOYANCE.

[Hardware_Hank]

Yeah WoD has a ridiculous loot table, seen more drg/nin crap on all my classes I've rolled with

they should 2 chest it per party like coil

[Kingsanx]

I am seriously doubting the RNG mechanic. I am dead serious. Something else is really at work here. RNG is broken. When in general RNG in the long run things should always avg out to be half. In this game RNG is a lie. My lots are almost always between 1-30 and once a week maybe ill get a lot that's above that. Makes no sense. Drop rates on items. RNG Attack targets. Goes for everything that supposedly uses the RNG mechanic. I've been trying to get healer drops from WoD and i usually dont get it until the very last day. Luck is not a real thing. I refuse to believe in something that cant be proven. lol Was thinking maybe the options you choose when creating a character have something to do with your RNG? No clue. All I can say is something must be effecting RNG somehow.
The red dragon in the second raid always roasts me on first use after drop. Isn't that suppose to be RNG? 18 ppl and I'm the one that always gets roasted. lol

[RyuRoots]

24, actually, though that only rather enhances your point. At this point I'm never gonna run WoD again save for the once-a-weeks for free carbon- items. There's no point. It's like BreathlessTao said, the only thing I get from it now, with one drop left, is the time I waste on it. I suppose you could say I still get tomes, but I'm drowning in those as it is. They're not hard to come by. I already got the puff of darkness minion. So with the game so weighted against any class that isn't dragoon or ninja (at least in my experiences), what incentive do I have to bother for this at *all* on any time other than exactly once on tuesday night?

[Mendalas]

Either fix the RNG or make sure the loots drop FAIRLY.

This literally made me facepalm. Fix the RNG? Yes SE lets fix the RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR.

ROFL