Specialist tier confirmed for crafting

[Moqi]

it is an increase in the amount of it

Becuase they will have to instead of wanting to. We all remember this is supposed to be fun, right? If you weren't doing it when you could avoid it, I don't think you are going to like it when they will make you.

If people are already purchasing items that are made by other crafters, then what the heck is the difference with having to buy "specialty" items made by other crafters?

That you must buy them instead of having the option to either buy them or make them yourself. Some people like to do everything, now they can't; some people don't mind buying stuff from others and will keep doing that. You see now how group gets shafted and the other is not affected? There are no pros for either group and only cons for another.

[Kyri]

I for one can't say I feel the least bit shafted. I expected this system to be implemented as early as 2010. Even if I hadn't I wouldn't be terribly upset because I was used to it and agree with it from XI. Besides, who's to say "specialty" turns out to be anything more then working on ship parts for the fc ships? Though if people are seriously considering quititng over this well... that's a bit extreme. To each their own I suppose. Ill be enjoying all crafts at specialty because I foresaw this 5 years ago and just have to finish a few crafts to have abilitys at this point. Perhaps I won't It depends on my commitment to crafting once more details are released.

[Waeksyn]

Lets put the argument another way. Lets say you've managed to level and trick out a tank, healer and dps job. All have relics and great gear. Now, after the expansion, you must choose to specialize in only one of these - take your pick, tank, healer or dps.

I think you'd be a bit pissed.

[Kyri]

Lets put the argument another way. Lets say you've managed to level and trick out a tank, healer and dps job. All have relics and great gear. Now, after the expansion, you must choose to specialize in only one of these - take your pick, tank, healer or dps.

I think you'd be a bit pissed.

Can't say that I would be. I play WHM as my main job. It's the one I always focus my primary efforts into when I am dealing with restrictive tomestone caps or weekly lot limits (Crystal Tower or Coils). I can play other jobs fine. I enjoy playing other jobs. I have other jobs with very decent gear. Doesn't change the fact that my main is now, has always been, and likely always will be WHM. The same can be said for Ciara, but her main focus is always on BLM.

So no, we wouldn't be pissed. I'd choose WHM, she'd choose BLM.. and we'd adapt. Not that I foresee this ever being an issue, but whatever. It's not that much of a leap from the situations we already practice anyway.

That you must buy them instead of having the option to either buy them or make them yourself.

This is not enough of a catastrophic issue to cause this level of complaint. If they said they were going to make it so that everyone could only have one craft job and that all other crafting jobs would be reduced to level 1 and you would lose all of your associated skills... then yes, this would warrant a high degree of complaint. Simply stating that there is going to be a specialized crafting system (on which we have no other real details) doesn't exactly justify people saying they are about to quit the game over it all.

[Zfz]

Personal opinions do not need justification. They're personal. There's a difference between expressing disagreement and opinion, and discrediting others simply because you don't agree.

Rather than "this does not justify your opinion", let's leave it at "I think it's fine for me" and not derail the thread further. For those of you who have forgotten, the thread was one asking people's thoughts, not trying to persuade each other to give up their own opinion.

[Aeyis]

Simply stating that there is going to be a specialized crafting system (on which we have no other real details) doesn't exactly justify people saying they are about to quit the game over it all.

And is your opinion as a commited crafter who does not have all crafting classes at 50, after 5 years?

Personally I'm glad it will give me more reasons to expand my networks for reasons beyond socializing.

And you needed to be forced to do this?

Indeed, as you say:

People =/= You

Don't pretend you know what other people feel about the situation.

Atleast the lala can even take confirmation by the very first replies to this thread...one of which is highly rated.
That seems to indicate that indeed, it ''pisses people off''

[Zumi]

Here is some more info about it from this interview http://www.pangamers.com/gaming/fina...-and-crafting/

We are planning to implement a new system for the crafters where we currently call it Specialist, of course the name isn’t finalized, it might change in the future, but they are specializing in the specific craft. So at a certain tier you can advance in those specific tiers to become a more proficient crafter of that certain discipline and we would like to start that around the launch of Heavensward, so depending on which job you choose to kind of master and become a specialist, there will be actions that are specific to this crafter, but at this specialist level. It will continue to expand.

[Gilthas]

I for one can't say I feel the least bit shafted. I expected this system to be implemented as early as 2010. Even if I hadn't I wouldn't be terribly upset because I was used to it and agree with it from XI. Besides, who's to say "specialty" turns out to be anything more then working on ship parts for the fc ships? Though if people are seriously considering quititng over this well... that's a bit extreme. To each their own I suppose. Ill be enjoying all crafts at specialty because I foresaw this 5 years ago and just have to finish a few crafts to have abilitys at this point. Perhaps I won't It depends on my commitment to crafting once more details are released.

I doubt I'll quit over this, but it's extremely frustrating that we might be locked out of content (and no, buying stuff from other people is not the content, crafting the items is the content) just because people kept whining on the forums that they had to deal with competition to sell items.

People don't give a rat's ass about the "economy", they just wanted to push people out of crafting so they could make more gil selling stuff.

Desynth was already bad, and now it looks like they're going to make things worse.

[Kyri]

And is your opinion as a committed crafter who does not have all crafting classes at 50, after 5 years?

Er what? Im 50 all crafts on multiple characters^^: Heck I even make and sell and use those "craft in a box" on my alts to make them 50 all crafts just for the sake of fixing my own gear.

And no People =/= You is correct. yes there's people who agree with you, but a majority? hardly. just the ones upset enough to post in this thread about being upset. Obviously the people posting here are the ones upset about it the others don't care enough to read or roll their eyes and walk away from the thread. Honestly im not sure why I keep posting here myself, though I think it's mostly to remind people this is how SE has done crafting in it's mmo's since 2002, had mentioned something like this as early as 2010 for XIV and the system worked fine doesn't seem to be getting around. So I guess you'll just have to wait and see for yourselves.. I don't think it will be as bad as some are anticipating though. But blow off steam if you need to I guess.

[Dyne_Fellpool]

One of the major draws of this game is that you can play all classes on a single character. This really flies in the face of that and I think it's a bad direction.