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    Mini-Lottery: Maybe a BIT more fairness?

    This daily lottery is somehow something nice, but to be honest, it's a BIT unfair, when some people already won 40.000 MGP with it, and other never had even the CHANCE on a single 10k or 3,6k prize.

    If this continues like that, some people will just get hundredthousands of MGP, while other don't got 10% of this.

    It would be one thing, if there would be any other way to get such intense amount of MGP, but somehow the Gold Saucer is really mainly a Casino like this - in the bad way and hell: for Chocobo raising you pretty much need all those MGP.

    I don't really get, why you implement it like this. You nerfed retainers, so they will not bring people raid stuff, but now, with Gold Saucer, it's back and even worse.

    All things, which bring most MGP, are 100% luck based, even the Typhoon Gate, the only one which gives 1600 MGP, is 100% RNG.

    I mean, I really would like to understand: why?
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    but but but... it's a LOTTERY that's what it's supposed to be..
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    Except that you can influence your mini cactpot winnings by knowing some basic math..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Except that you can influence your mini cactpot winnings by knowing some basic math..
    Although I disagree with the original poster regarding making something such as a lottery more fair, I must also interject and point out that
    no amount of math will yield results on a ticket that simply does not offer a 10k prize.

    So far none of my tickets had a 10k alignment possible, however my girlfriend has won it three times.

    It's just rng though, it's part of the fun!
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    I get that its a lottery and RNG is supposed to be a big factor, but it would be nice if tickets at least had a chance to win some decent amount and the RNG was simply your luck at picking which line to go for... i have had multiple tickets where i could not win more than 300, in a row. While others say: "i just won 10k again lol" (they might just be lying to look cool (if that somehow makes you look cool?) but you never know, they really might just have that crazy luck people get)

    Either way getting to a few million for all the rewards is that much harder when mini cactpot RNGesus decides to crap all over you :P
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    Not all tickets are going to be winners. Such is life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leumas View Post
    I get that its a lottery and RNG is supposed to be a big factor, but it would be nice if tickets at least had a chance to win some decent amount and the RNG was simply your luck at picking which line to go for... i have had multiple tickets where i could not win more than 300, in a row. While others say: "i just won 10k again lol" (they might just be lying to look cool (if that somehow makes you look cool?) but you never know, they really might just have that crazy luck people get)

    Either way getting to a few million for all the rewards is that much harder when mini cactpot RNGesus decides to crap all over you :P
    Seen people do that with the big lottery too, claiming to have won hundreds of thousands yet their achievements pop up saying they only unlocked the 10k one not the 100k one.

    On the mini lottery I can see where your coming from in that due to RNG you keep failing to get tickets that even contain a chance for the 10k prize but I also understand like lotteries in real life, not all tickets will be winning tickets. Thing is if every ticket was a winning ticket then those who are good at maths and smart about which order to unlock circles would win almost all of the time so would undermine the whole ticket system. I don't know which is better/worse but I guess I side on the current system more than the other even though I too rarely ever get above 100 MGP from the tickets despite having three characters I play every day with buying tickets.

    Maybe I am biased though in that I do not use the lottery as the main or sole method for gaining MGP and play TT a lot, chocobo racing and GATES too in order to make up for the fact the lottery won't win me much MGP overall so far. I have so far gained about 140k MGP but only about 20k of it came from lotteries across three characters, I however poured all of it away on gold card packs trying to get Zidane or Warrior of Light and gained neither so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexy View Post
    Not all tickets are going to be winners. Such is life.
    This is a game, it got nothing to do with life.

    And even if something like this existst in RL, it's bad there, it's also bad here.

    As said, the main problem is, that MGP are very hard to come by, if you are not winning them just like that.

    Let's say: 3600 MGP = Carboncoat. 10000 MGP = Carbontwine.
    One guy gets 3-4 tickets with Carbontwine and 5-6 with Carboncoat. 25% get half of this and the rest gets nothing, just by RNG.

    Is this a good design? That the program just decides, who gets something, who gets plenty and who gets nothing at all?

    Sure, you can just accept this. Or say: well, bad game, I will play something else. Or you can ask them, if they don't think, that this could be improved a bit. Let the lottery stay, but give people with less luck a chance, to get their MGPs without grinding hours of hours TT. This pretty much ruins TT, too, because it becomes absolutely mind-numbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Except that you can influence your mini cactpot winnings by knowing some basic math..
    How so? My last 3 tickets had a maximum payout of about 360.
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    The trick I use is when know 1, 2 or 3 is not in the same row then go for highest number combination possible to at least get more than put in to buying the ticket. I am fine with it currently despite knowing most of the tickets I buy haven't gave me a chance of gaining 10k. If they were to make every ticket a possible winning ticket I think they should also in that situation double the size of the tickets and double the amount of number combinations but keep the amount of number unlocks prior to picking a row the same as it is now. You can't allow for a situation where your basically just giving everyone 10k a day just because they know some basic maths, there has to be an element of luck and chance on lotteries else it undermines the principle of the lottery itself.
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