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  1. #41
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    I think main idea of classes is cross class skills.. I think it is pretty good idea you can use same abilities with different jobs and there not need 2 be same abilities for every job with different name like scholar do not need their own cleric stance and warrior do not need own provoke with different ability name like how esuna and leeches are or cure and physick are.
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  2. #42
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    Wobble Wibblewobb
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I doubt the new jobs will be level 30 when unlocked. They did this in FFXI with advanced job where you had to have say WHM to 30 to unlock level 1 smn.
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  3. #43
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    Jinko Jinko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wobble View Post
    I doubt the new jobs will be level 30 when unlocked. They did this in FFXI with advanced job where you had to have say WHM to 30 to unlock level 1 smn.
    Lets not bring 11 in to this please. :P

    But I think you might be right in so much as that you just need to be lvl 30 in one class to accept the quest to unlock these new jobs, and then you probably start from lvl 1 when you equip the weapon.

    This is how Jobs should have worked all along IMO. (its time for a job/class revamp again Yoshi dearest)
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  4. #44
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    Raiya Li
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Its quite viable to have the new jobs start from level 30 as it fits in with the existing Job but without the base class to start with. Remember we already have this with SCH which starts at level 30 but atm is tied to the base arcanist class. Arcanist is really the base job of SMN and SCH plays quite different from SCH at the same level since its healing based. Tbh I wouldnt mind if they decoupled SCH from ACN further down the line and replaced it with its own unique skillset at the very least to end the dependancy on the shared stats with SMN but without having to start again at lvl1.

    As for unlocking the new jobs they could say you need certain CLASSES at certain levels to unlock them like to say to unlock DRK, AST and MCH it could be say lvl30 Glad/Maur for DRK, lvl30 arc/conj for AST and lvl30 arc for machinist. This would mean those Jobs could be continuations of those classes but at the same time therye not tied to the base stats and abilities of those classes like the way SCH was.
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  5. #45
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    Samburi Yura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    Remember we already have this with SCH which starts at level 30 but atm is tied to the base arcanist class.
    Not if you unlock it with Arcanist 50
    Should the new jobs start at level 50 if we unlock them with a lv 50 class/job?

    The new jobs are not like the old jobs, so don't assume they work the same.
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    Irvin Izanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Lets not bring 11 in to this please. :P

    But I think you might be right in so much as that you just need to be lvl 30 in one class to accept the quest to unlock these new jobs, and then you probably start from lvl 1 when you equip the weapon.

    This is how Jobs should have worked all along IMO. (its time for a job/class revamp again Yoshi dearest)
    I agree with you. So tihs means we need any class at level 30 like we had to get any class at lv 10 for rogue. Makes sense. But the article says not sure what job the job will be. so that could mean anyl evel from 1-30.

    What im confused is that thought if u only brought heavensword u wouldnt have access to the other jobs and classes only the 3 new jobs. am I wrong?
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  7. #47
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzraelX View Post
    I agree with you. So tihs means we need any class at level 30 like we had to get any class at lv 10 for rogue. Makes sense. But the article says not sure what job the job will be. so that could mean anyl evel from 1-30.

    What im confused is that thought if u only brought heavensword u wouldnt have access to the other jobs and classes only the 3 new jobs. am I wrong?
    Umm... yes, actually, you would be wrong given you need a Job to unlock the new Jobs, but to have a Job in the first place you need to have leveled a class to 30 and a subclass to 15. As such, given a lack of any other information, the new Jobs will be tied to the classes that govern the Jobs that unlock them. It also means chances are high you won't be starting in the Ishgardian ghettos.
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  8. #48
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Umm... yes, actually, you would be wrong given you need a Job to unlock the new Jobs,
    source for this ?

    I was under the impression that you would need "any class" at a certain level then do quests.

    The idea of "master jobs" or "second tier jobs" as presented by Yoshida back before 2.0 never came into reality
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  9. #49
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    Minna Valara
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    Paladin Lv 70
    it doesnt mean someone starts the game at level 30. they have to pick one of the starting classes we have now at character creation, level that class/job to 30 and then they can undertake the dark knight quest (for example) It's no different than doing gladiator to 30 and becoming a paladin, only, drk doesnt have a root class.
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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Sounds reasonable just as long they do not keep the level the 3 new jobs start with too high.

    While most would just spam 1,2,3 for killing things when rushing the leveling process, it still requires time for people to properly grasp the concept on how a Job works to their full potential so making them jump too soon into high level content would affect a players efficiency with the new Jobs if they don't spend enough time practicing it and learning which skill is best for which situation.

    However, if level 30 then we may have to expect them having the same restrictions for new players that a new character must beat Titan first before they can obtain any of the new Jobs which is the current requirement to access Jobs in 2.X era for new characters.
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