Oooh FF6 reference?

[Dyvid]

Now all we need is that stupid clown. I'll be sure to macro, Sephiroth sends his regards in case we fight him.

Kefka > Sephiroth

[lololink]

Kefka > Sephiroth

Better have a mix of both :

[Balipu]

Kefka > Sephiroth

Depends how you look at it. Sephiroth is cooler, Kefka is funnier. Kefka became more powerful but did so by moving three statues which is stupid. Kefka died and that's it, Sephiroth already resurrected himself two times. Kefka is an insanely strong mage, Sephiroth is a master swordsman. Kefka caused the apocalypse, Sephiroth counted on the planet saving itself from the apocalypse and planned to merge with the lifestream. As Advent Children showed, he kinda succeeded. Kinda.
Both have strenths and weaknesses, I just preffer Sephiroth. Still, neither of them have anyting on the Emperor who conquered hell after dying.

[lololink]

Depends how you look at it. Sephiroth is cooler, Kefka is funnier. Kefka became more powerful but did so by moving three statues which is stupid. Kefka died and that's it, Sephiroth already resurrected himself two times. Kefka is an insanely strong mage, Sephiroth is a master swordsman. Kefka caused the apocalypse, Sephiroth counted on the planet saving itself from the apocalypse and planned to merge with the lifestream. As Advent Children showed, he kinda succeeded. Kinda.
Both have strenths and weaknesses, I just preffer Sephiroth. Still, neither of them have anyting on the Emperor who conquered hell after dying.

Except that Sephiroth is just Jenova's puppet, making him only good looking while the mastermind is Jenova.

[Kuwagami]

Depends how you look at it. Sephiroth is cooler, Kefka is funnier. Kefka became more powerful but did so by moving three statues which is stupid. Kefka died and that's it, Sephiroth already resurrected himself two times. Kefka is an insanely strong mage, Sephiroth is a master swordsman. Kefka caused the apocalypse, Sephiroth counted on the planet saving itself from the apocalypse and planned to merge with the lifestream. As Advent Children showed, he kinda succeeded. Kinda.
Both have strenths and weaknesses, I just preffer Sephiroth. Still, neither of them have anyting on the Emperor who conquered hell after dying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSbpZCVIUnw

[Balipu]

Except that Sephiroth is just Jenova's puppet, making him only good looking while the mastermind is Jenova.

A common missconception but not true. In fact it is the exact opposite. Sephiroth is manipulating the cells of the long dead Jenova.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSbpZCVIUnw

An awesome technical achievement, but I don't think it work as well as a single individual song as One Winged Angel or The Extreme. Like I said, oppinions differ. I consider Kefka better in some aspects, music not being one of said aspects, but overall prefer Sephiroth over him. Still, Kefka would fit better into XIV than Sephiroth and I would welcome his appearance. He is a very good villain, but.....ehh I said it many times already. I'm sure you get the picture.

[Ultimatecalibur]

The next 24 man has been stated to not be a nostalgia nod. That does not mean that the Floating Continent will not be a nostalgia nod. We are like looking at what is likely to be an 8 man dungeon.

Kefka's Tower will likely be saved for the expansion that takes us into the Empire proper.

[Kuwagami]

A common missconception but not true. In fact it is the exact opposite. Sephiroth is manipulating the cells of the long dead Jenova.

considering his mother complex and total dependency, I'm not sure the Sephiroth we're fighting in FFvii isn't a puppet of Jenova (Jenova isn't dead btw. That's the reason why they are able to transplant her cells in Soldier members). In advent children though, he may have sorted things out with his mother and really use his own will.

[Balipu]

considering his mother complex and total dependency, I'm not sure the Sephiroth we're fighting in FFvii isn't a puppet of Jenova (Jenova isn't dead btw. That's the reason why they are able to transplant her cells in Soldier members). In advent children though, he may have sorted things out with his mother and really use his own will.

Wow. A Kefka fan who can talk respectfully about Sephiroth. I have waited long for someone like you. Yes, he has a mother complex, but he is controlled more by ideas than a physical entity. At least that's how I see it. Transplants work on dead cells as well. That's essentually how cloning works, and that's how people plan to resurrect the very much extinct mammoth. I for one think Sephiroth got worse during advent children. More crazy I mean. In VII he had a relatively complex plan where he manipulating everything and anyone, including the planet itself, to reach his goal if merging with the lifestream, which he kinda did. In Advent Children, he just came back to troll Cloud.

Okay, now a question for all the Kefka fans. If he is in, do you think he is a Garlean soldier?
It would be a pretty nice way to make them relevant again. And since Garleans love italian, Palazzo wouldnt be out of place at all. Hmmm, Kefka sas Palazzo. Or perhaps Kefka van Palazzo. AAAAnd in the end, after playing around with the warring triads Kefka deus Palazzo. Yeah it would work. I doubt the new Emperor would be kicked off the Floating Continent this earyl, but maybe the Archbishop. Yeah, that would work nicely.

[Kuwagami]

Wow. A Kefka fan who can talk respectfully about Sephiroth. I have waited long for someone like you. Yes, he has a mother complex, but he is controlled more by ideas than a physical entity. At least that's how I see it. Transplants work on dead cells as well. That's essentually how cloning works, and that's how people plan to resurrect the very much extinct mammoth. I for one think Sephiroth got worse during advent children. More crazy I mean. In VII he had a relatively complex plan where he manipulating everything and anyone, including the planet itself, to reach his goal if merging with the lifestream, which he kinda did. In Advent Children, he just came back to troll Cloud.

There is still the fact that we fight Jenova in FFvii. Four times. Which, if the Calamity is indeed dead at that point, becomes suddenly unclear to me after all these years

As for the kefka/sephiroth debate, I'm not into that. I like both for different reasons. Sephiroth is the mentally disturbed kid who never solved his mother complex and started to think that it was his duty to follow his mother's legacy. He's good as a villain but what's more interesting is the process of thoughts from the "I'm the son of a monster" to the "You're all monsters and I'll kill you all". Also the history about Hojo and the J-cells project.

Kefka however, if just one batshit crazy guy who wants to destroy the world because reasons. "I'm bored, so I'll annihilate you. sounds fun". For the entire time of the game, he manages to provoke chills down our spine with his laugh and his evilness. But worse, he's just genuinely evil. He's just doing that to keep himself entertained. For me, he's the one true villain of all final fantasy titles. There are other big baddies and stuff, but he is the only one who wants to destroy everything with no reason at all. Just for fun. Crazy bastard.

Okay, now a question for all the Kefka fans. If he is in, do you think he is a Garlean soldier?
It would be a pretty nice way to make them relevant again. And since Garleans love italian, Palazzo wouldnt be out of place at all. Hmmm, Kefka sas Palazzo. Or perhaps Kefka van Palazzo. AAAAnd in the end, after playing around with the warring triads Kefka deus Palazzo. Yeah it would work. I doubt the new Emperor would be kicked off the Floating Continent this earyl, but maybe the Archbishop. Yeah, that would work nicely.

I don't think kefka will ever come as he is in FFvi because the focus of the game is not the same as in FFvi. We're more in the "crystal type" of Final fantasy for now. Though there could be a similar crazy guy coming in the future with no morale at all, wrecking chaos and forcing the Empire to ally with Eorzea, leading to the access to the Garlean capital and their technology in a future extension.


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