Chocobo Dash needs a nerf

[Honourlessichi]

Nothing is an automatic win. The 2 most determinant things are hero's tonic and choco meteor. Problem is, as you well said, there is a ridiculous amount of skills and traits that are literally useless. Heavy Resistance, Heavy Cleanse, Frenzy Resistance, Frenzy Cleanse, Choco Reflect, Choco Steal, Choco Esuna, Choco Silence, Choco Shock, Speedy Recovery and Dressage are next to useless. Maybe Choco Steal, Choco Shock and Choco Silence aren't completely trash tier, but they are just too situational.


Currently god tier? Choco Dash III and Head Start.
Decent tier? Increased Stamina III and Choco Cure III.

That's just how I see it.

Hey i like dressage,what's not to like about 15% less racing time to get to the breeding stage of your chocobo?(helps that i only ever seem to come up against npcs these days)

[Gallus]

Hey i like dressage,what's not to like about 15% less racing time to get to the breeding stage of your chocobo?(helps that i only ever seem to come up against npcs these days)

It's not 15% less racing time, do not fool yourself xD. You remove dressage and give the chocobo an actual good skill and instead of repeteadly losing matches because you are racing skilless you will place 1st and 2nd most times if you are smart and have a skill that actually does something unlike dressage. This comes from someone who had one of his Gen chocobos (can't remember which one) learn dressage II. The grind was significantly harder because there wasn't a freaking single way to win a race.

[Honourlessichi]

It's not 15% less racing time, do not fool yourself xD. You remove dressage and give the chocobo an actual good skill and instead of repeteadly losing matches because you are racing skilless you will place 1st and 2nd most times if you are smart and have a skill that actually does something unlike dressage. This comes from someone who had one of his Gen chocobos (can't remember which one) learn dressage II. The grind was significantly harder because there wasn't a freaking single way to win a race.

Well you're obviously not as expert as you seem to think you are,i can safely say i've lost less than 30 races while using dressage in the last 4 ranks of my 5 chocobos i've bred.

Winning races is easy once you get ahead at the start,thanks to dash i've gotten in 2 of those ranks,the other 2 ranks i was without dash weren't much more of a problem at all due to my good chocobos.Don't even need headstart.Other players are never a problem because i never get other players thanks to the popularity of triple triad

You can say i'm lying,i don't care,i know what i've done and i know what racing is like and i laugh at your claim that winning races was impossible with dressage.

[Gallus]

You can say i'm lying,i don't care,i know what i've done and i know what racing is like and i laugh at your claim that winning races was impossible with dressage.

Winning with dressage isn't impossible, of course, but you are playing with one skill less. Due to how dumb NPCs can turn out to be, yes, you can still pull wins against them, but against any kind of competent player and decent chocobo stats with 2 skills instead of 1, your odds of winning are not very favourable. Couple that with a chocobo with 1 and 2 stars in stamina and maximum speed and yes, things can get rough, even against NPCs.

[Honourlessichi]

Winning with dressage isn't impossible, of course, but you are playing with one skill less. Due to how dumb NPCs can turn out to be, yes, you can still pull wins against them, but against any kind of competent player and decent chocobo stats with 2 skills instead of 1, your odds of winning are not very favourable. Couple that with a chocobo with 1 and 2 stars in stamina and maximum speed and yes, things can get rough, even against NPCs.

Winning against ncs is all but guaranteed for me,i honestly can't figure out why it is such a problem for others.

Against players,i usually win too,because i know the courses like the back of my hand and will be first/second at the first/second treasure chest so i can get in control of those.
I come up against players (usually 1,sometimes 2) every 10 races or so,and surely not every single one of those i'm beating is incompetent.
So no,you do not need to be a dash/headstarter to win the vast majority of your races.

Is the combo broken?I'd say so,but you'd need to be going up against that combo for 10%+ of your races to render dressage3 a wasted slot.Infact my math's poor on that,it may be a lot more because you're still getting 15% in any place finished,and it may very well be even with the same combo you would have still lost.

[Gallus]

Even with 2 good skills, food feeding and smart playing trust me it's not a guaranteed win against higher tier NPCs. By the looks of it, you haven't reached R240-260 where I've seen NPCs consistently finish sagolii under 88-85 seconds. You are bound to have some real fun dealing with those with skills such as choco reflect, frenzy resist or dressage.

R60-R80-R100? Yes, I've been there too, can't even remember which was my longest win strike, but probably around 20-25 wins without losing once. Hell, my last G9 chocobo with just head start didn't lose a single race until level 10, at that point I was already dealing with R120...and the problems start from R140 onwards, where NPCs seem to start outscaling your stats by a wide margin and your only chance is playing far smarter than them and have some luck. Even with 380 Max speed, NPCs from R220-240 make fun of you.

[Welsper59]

Even with 2 good skills, food feeding and smart playing trust me it's not a guaranteed win against higher tier NPCs. By the looks of it, you haven't reached R240-260 where I've seen NPCs consistently finish sagolii under 88-85 seconds. You are bound to have some real fun dealing with those with skills such as choco reflect, frenzy resist or dressage.

R60-R80-R100? Yes, I've been there too, can't even remember which was my longest win strike, but probably around 20-25 wins without losing once. Hell, my last G9 chocobo with just head start didn't lose a single race until level 10, at that point I was already dealing with R120...and the problems start from R140 onwards, where NPCs seem to start outscaling your stats by a wide margin and your only chance is playing far smarter than them and have some luck. Even with 380 Max speed, NPCs from R220-240 make fun of you.

I've slowed down my racing since last week (as I was trying to obtain cards), so I'm not sure on this, but are there any of the lower brackets available at the time to compete in when you're that high of a rating? The NPCs really seem to just get random stats, usually average or near max what that racing bracket would ideally have that's why. So I would think that you're still intended to go for the lower available ones until the stats are up to par (or you're forced to move up).

[Honourlessichi]

Even with 2 good skills, food feeding and smart playing trust me it's not a guaranteed win against higher tier NPCs. By the looks of it, you haven't reached R240-260 where I've seen NPCs consistently finish sagolii under 88-85 seconds. You are bound to have some real fun dealing with those with skills such as choco reflect, frenzy resist or dressage.

I use dressage to get my chocobos into breedable state as fast as possible for the time i have to play,and yes,i've been in 140.

Dressage for that,is an incredibly useful ability.

I'll start worrying about headstart with dash once i'm done with the lower rank breeds.