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  1. #31
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    Janembo's Avatar
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    Shanks The'great
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    PLD > BRD > WAR/DRG (unless absolutely maxing out both survival and dps on WAR) > SMN > others imo
    Agreed Pld 1-2-3 combo what CD is best needed and Brd dots an buffs up! Ok press one key... Or time to reapply!

    So what your saying is warrior is easy to play if you don't play it right! This is true I've mastered warrior an it pains me to play a healer an Deeps an get a warrior tank who won't have maim up or never use SE or Even SP or in lesser raids ex. T9 usin IB b4 it's time and then there's the vit\parry stacker that is just not right when they think 12k hp is the ways to go -.-

    every class is easy with enough practice with some more then others.
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  2. #32
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    So....... this question has no good answer. The player's style will decide which job is the easiest to play. To me, for tanking it's PLD. For healer, it's WHM. Why it's WHM? Because it's extremely easy to time my heals perfectly in fights like T13, I'm a main BLM, I time my spells so I don't lose casts while I move.

    For DPS, Monk is a complete joke to me It's really easy to move from flank to back. If I lose a cast due to movement, I just lost 1300 damage on my BLM. If you miss DK flank on Monk, you lose a total of 50 potency, you still have your DK debuff. The way I see this job is literally like this : Dragon Kick is up? Crit dat Bootshine. Twinsnake is up? Truestrike your butt... Demolish DoT is still up? I'll just Snap Punch your flank.

    Well, that's my opinion. Most people say BLM is easy because they don't play it and they don't realise movement in fights is painful to deal with. Have you ever tried to cast a Fire in between two earth shakers? Meanwhile, this Monk gets cover or he just keep his rotation up cause he has the mobility for :3
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    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    just lol at some of these answers.

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  4. #34
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    Pandora Heinstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguisio View Post
    just lol at some of these answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikaal View Post
    I just lost 1300 damage on my BLM.

    Well, that's my opinion. Most people say BLM is easy because they don't play it and they don't realise movement in fights is painful to deal with
    This is correct. Back in the days when T6 has been released most of the BLM were not able to carry their weight on bulbs phase due to the interruptions and movements.

    i had a FC mate who gave up maining
    WHM on EX fights and went BLM because "omg so easy fire fire pew pew lol". Last time i checked him he was pushing 250 dps in Ramuh when decent and humble tBLMs that actually learned the job and the tricks were always above 400 in i105 gear or so
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  6. #36
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich View Post
    Last time i checked him he was pushing 250 dps in Ramuh when decent and humble tBLMs that actually learned the job and the tricks were always above 400 in i105 gear or so
    Yeah, Ramuh's got a lot of moving, which is a problem for a new BLM. But, a good BLM knows how to reduce the DPS loss from the moving to practically nothing.

    Personally though, I find BLM easier than melee DPS, but that's my personal experience. I just never really got the hang of melee DPS rotations and movement. But, BLM timing makes total sense to me.
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    Adore Mi
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    Sorry, between the healing classes, SCH is much easier to play than WHM - much less mana issues to worry about, much less aggro to worry about, much less damage to heal due to the shields. Plus when you go Cleric Stance, your fairy and Lustrates aren't affected and Eos/Selene keeps on healing leaving you MORE time to be in cleric and DPSing. WHM, not so much. You have no fairy to help you out, no Aetherflow mana regen every minute, no three Lustrates per minute, etc.

    Being an amazing SCH is easy. Being an amazing WHM is much tougher.
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    Height Error
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    Black Mage is the easiest class ever.
    Long range, manaward/wall, infinite resources, huge aoe damage, incredibly easy to gear since there is no "junk" secondary stat...etc.
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  9. #39
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    Tani Shirai
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Janembo View Post
    Agreed Pld 1-2-3 combo what CD is best needed and Brd dots an buffs up! Ok press one key... Or time to reapply!

    So what your saying is warrior is easy to play if you don't play it right! This is true I've mastered warrior an it pains me to play a healer an Deeps an get a warrior tank who won't have maim up or never use SE or Even SP or in lesser raids ex. T9 usin IB b4 it's time and then there's the vit\parry stacker that is just not right when they think 12k hp is the ways to go -.-

    every class is easy with enough practice with some more then others.
    I was thinking more along the lines of: are both SP and SE up at all times without being replaced early (they give enough leniency for one Wrath move and one Fracture during constant uptime) except to make sure SE (and Berserk, if possible) are up for Inner Beast? If he needs additional threat via Butcher's combo, is it being placed ideally? Is the War using Berserk to complete his 5-stack when spending it on anything but Unchained? If in Defiance, is (Unchained)-Berserk after pull starting on the third combo move, as to allow for a combo-end, a combo, a wrath move, and another full combo in your 9-hit Berserk? Does he have enough skill speed to do a 9-hit Berserk? Where it does not generate excess/unusable Wrath and you have no particular need for them, are you avoiding Steel Cyclone/Inner Beast during Unchained? Etc.

    If played to absolute theoretical perfection* (which falling behind dps in gear may not allow anyways), the only classes that can give me similar difficulty are certain skill-speed levels of Monk and Ninja. If played just 'damn well', then it's a bit easier.

    As for the above comment on Black Mage, it is easy in terms of mechanics, but if one considers 'mastery' of the class to arrive only after you're parsing as high as possible, it's actually a fairly demanding job.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 03-07-2015 at 07:21 AM.

  10. #40
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    @Shurrikhan trying to keep SE an SP up at all times is not needed SE up at all time is more practical unless a NiN in party I'll get his DE an War keeps up SP.
    SP should b put up b4 big hits on raid or with IB for tht 30%...
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