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    Sunako's Avatar
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    For PLD you need think carefully your cooldown rotation and when you need precast stoneskin. For warrior it is pretty much enough if you pop inner beast every time some kind of big hit is coming.
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  2. #22
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I meant learn and be able to hold your weight on primals and similarly leveled difficulty instances. I'm going to edit the OP: easiest class to Maximize your DPS.
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  3. #23
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    Lilyarel's Avatar
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    BLM uses the deep lore and channels the wisdom of casters to rotate between ice and fire with the occasional proc.
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  4. #24
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    Zhycrana Dranix
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Lol healer : SCH ? Get out of here if SCH is easiest of the healers you aren't optimizing.If you leave your Selene on sic post T10 you're doing it wrong, if you aren't tying Rouse X Fey and Then 30 secs Rouse + WD you're doing it wrong . Also whats your opener for a WHM ? Aero ? Try Bio + Swift Cast Bio II + Miasma + Aero + Shadow Flare and Miasma II.........oh yeah and also healing as well.....Ruin spam out the wazoo and did I mention healing....Have I gotten to fairy management and allocated heals ? Lulz no complaints I'm Just saying popping Regen + DS and Spamming cure all day surely sounds tough. Mechanically and Tactically its proven WHM is the easier of the two healers to fully optimize hence alot of SCHs being more cross over rather then beginning and finishing as the Job....WHM beginner healing .....SCH WE DA REAL DEAL

    LMAO YES THIS WAS SO BIAS #MASTERJOB SCH OH YEAH 2800 CRIT ALDO get sum
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  5. #25
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    Kuroyasha's Avatar
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    That last line made me Lol. Dranix u da real mvp
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  6. #26
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    Zentsa's Avatar
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    Runa Kawasaki
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ZhycranaDranix View Post
    Lol healer : SCH ? Get out of here if SCH is easiest of the healers you aren't optimizing.
    You know what "your opinion" means right? :P
    And in MY opinion (i played both long enough) SCH is FOR ME much esier than WHM and i know how to controll my fairy and to heal, no reason to rage <3
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zentsa View Post
    You know what "your opinion" means right? :P
    And in MY opinion (i played both long enough) SCH is FOR ME much esier than WHM

    no reason to rage <3
    I literally said my post was completely biased.....get out dem feels my fellow healer
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  8. #28
    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    Phoenix
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    lol dis rage ! !

    Easiest classes to max your DPS
    PLD, BRD, BLM

    The problem playing your classes to the fullest relies on others as well

    SCH can push 300 or so dps with a WHM who knows how to heal yet it is the easier class to heal with.
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  9. #29
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Maximize DPS? PLD, hands down. 1-2-3 rotations + Spirits Within and Circle of Scorn whenever possible = max DPS. Oh, and use Fight or Flight after savage blade with SW and CoS on cooldown, and swap to Sword Oath when not tanking anything (but don't switch after a Savage Blade since switching interrupts your combo). A monkey could maximize DPS on a PLD. Doesn't mean the monkey would be a good tank, but that wasn't the question xD

    SCH would be next easiest. Just dot everything with Cleric Stance up while healing, and drop Shadow Flare when you don't need Sacred Ground up (they're mutually exclusive). Oh, and run Selene instead of Eos for max raid DPS. This is easier than WHM because WHM have to switch stances much more often, and WHM can only either heal or DPS at a given time. Due to SCH dots and pet, SCH is always healing (via the fairy) while actively DPSing and always DPSing (via DoTs) while actively healing.

    Answering the actual question (which DPS is easiest to maximize DPS with), in a raid situation, BRD is easiest to max DPS. They do low DPS compared to other classes (if they're playing correctly and singing as needed), but maximizing their DPS is easy, and you can dodge raid mechanics while doing full DPS.

    SMN is second easiest after BRD in raid situations. In a raid, there are usually few enemies, so DoTing them is easy. There's some complexity to MP management and pet management, but really, it's just DoT, contagion, fester, ruin, ruin, fester, ruin ruin, etc. In my (biased) opinion, SMN is complex when dealing with large crowds (like in dungeons), but easy when dealing with bosses (like in raids). And, since nearly all of the SMN damage is from DoTs, instant spells (like Fester and Ruin II), and the pet, they can do almost full DPS while moving. SMNs are terrible at dealing with weak adds though, unless they adds spawn close enough to the boss to Bane the boss's DoTs to them.

    To maximize damage as a BLM, you have to know when move-requiring attacks are coming and time everything you do appropriately, which takes knowledge of the raid and practice. While BLM have the easiest rotation, they lose more DPS from moving at the wrong time than any other class.

    MNK, NIN, and DRG all have complex rotations making them much harder to max DPS on than the ranged DPS. DRG have a complex rotation (tons of OGCD attacks to weave in and many short duration buffs/debuffs), but they have practically no positional requirements. MNK have a simpler rotation (some short duration buffs/debuffs and OGCD skills, but fewer), but nearly every attack of theirs has positional requirements. NIN has no positional requirements, but has to constantly use OGCD abilities (mudras, among others) to max DPS. NIN is probably the easiest out of those if you don't suffer from mudra lag, but with mudra lag, it can be hard to max DPS on a NIN.
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  10. #30
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich View Post
    People consistantly saying that BLM is easy probably do 350 dps on easy dungeons with full augmented poetics and a broken rotation. I call them the "thunder III blms".

    Being able to stay competitive in high-movements fights - like above 500ish in FCOB - mastering all the rotation tricks, fire weaving everytime its possible, learn when to use aaether.manip. and so on is not THAT easy.

    Blm gameplay can give the feeling that you re doing it quite good but it has nothing to do with being an excellent BLM able to sustain high damage output in every situation.

    Just my two cents tho
    reminds me of the people who say Bard is faceroll, just put everything in a macro and spam away. Sad really.
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