Dreadwyrm Glow...

[ClaireAbigail]

You have no clue what you're talking about if you think taking a relic from Atma to Zeta is no achievement.

When I was doing my mnk relic, I was watching anime and eating while doing some stuff for work. I even taught my sister basic controls and told her to "kill stuff with a purple thing above their head along the blue area"(fates) while I sleep. I ran with friends in dungeons while screwing around. I did the light grinds half asleep, I asked people to watch fates for my books while I somtimes watch for them. How can you possibly consider that an achievement? It's just pure grind...if you look at it as a time sink achievement then I guess.


Oh and come on look at the people posting here, are you gonna say that they are acting very nicely? I even saw one post in a thread saying they can't wait for the raiders to cry about the relics. Honestly, attitudewise, both sides are guilty of doing something they aren't proud of. My point is, the non raiders here or even raiders, whatever, making fun of the other for not having what the other have is basically the pot calling the kettle black.

Tl;dr if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all(something I need to follow too but struggles to do)

[NorthernLadMSP]

To me, it's never been about making fun of anyone (and I haven't). I stated I have no sympathy for the people that chose to talk sh** about relic holders for so long, only to come back and be mad that the relic is now the best weapon in the game (for the time being).

[Wintersandman]

To me, it's never been about making fun of anyone (and I haven't). I stated I have no sympathy for the people that chose to talk sh** about relic holders for so long, only to come back and be mad that the relic is now the best weapon in the game (for the time being).

This is the problem, is what NorthernLad is saying. Which I tried to emphasize in my earlier post. I am not bad mouthing anyone and neither is NorthernLad. But for the past 3 months no one has brought up "Dreadwyrm Glow" until Zeta was released. Now Zeta is equal or better than dreadwyrm it almost feels like the dreadwyrm only holders are feeling left out especially since over the past 6-9 months they have been saying "Don't do relic get T9/T13".

[ZhycranaDranix]

When I was doing my mnk relic, I was watching anime and eating while doing some stuff for work. I even taught my sister basic controls and told her to "kill stuff with a purple thing above their head along the blue area"(fates) while I sleep. I ran with friends in dungeons while screwing around. I did the light grinds half asleep, I asked people to watch fates for my books while I somtimes watch for them. How can you possibly consider that an achievement? It's just pure grind...if you look at it as a time sink achievement then I guess.

I'm sorry we don't all have people to slave for us while we you know live life......and have to you know go to work etc etc...I speak for the common casuals that obtaining a End game i135 relic is an achievement ..Not just the Zeta phase .....but sticking through all the BS , all the ''its not BiS'' , gil spending , farming hrs etc etc it is an Achievement knock off some of those slave hours you induced on others while we grinded and you might feel a sense of achievement too