Dreadwyrm Glow...

[Enthy]

IMO all the glow effects on weapons/armor are ugly as hell. please allow us to toggle this eye-sore off for self and others on our screen.

[Wintersandman]

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There hasn't been a raider who has complained about zeta in a thread. There are plenty of threads that talk about is relic worth it or not. All of the raiders in those threads say don't bother just farm T13 and get a dreadwyrm. I could link them but they are so prominent.

[NorthernLadMSP]

You have no clue what you're talking about if you think taking a relic from Atma to Zeta is no achievement.

In addition, if you're referring in any way shape or form to me in your statement of "non-raiders being the rude ones," you should check your facts. I do raid. So, your generalization is invalid, because it certainly does not apply to everyone. I also know a LOT of other people that do raid that did take the time and effort to progress their relic(s).

[FranSeara]

As a Engamer and sometimes (boring assh*llz) Raider, I'll apologize just to keep the peace. But, the "First Stone" was thrown along time ago in this disussion (Many threads ago) Now, with that out of the way, Relics under go special process that raiding weapons don't ( this is why the GLOW). Raiders have access to weapons and gear MOST Players don't. We no cry. The relics are for EVERYONE. If you would like a full blowN glowly relic, you can put the 6-8 months of work in and get one. I did. Sorry, If anyone is feeling left out, but OTHER players got to stand by and watch some players show off their stuff FOR MONTHS and have it rubbed in their faces by "SOME" So-called Hard core Raiders.
"In my mind this is JUSTICE"

[ClaireAbigail]

You have no clue what you're talking about if you think taking a relic from Atma to Zeta is no achievement.

When I was doing my mnk relic, I was watching anime and eating while doing some stuff for work. I even taught my sister basic controls and told her to "kill stuff with a purple thing above their head along the blue area"(fates) while I sleep. I ran with friends in dungeons while screwing around. I did the light grinds half asleep, I asked people to watch fates for my books while I somtimes watch for them. How can you possibly consider that an achievement? It's just pure grind...if you look at it as a time sink achievement then I guess.


Oh and come on look at the people posting here, are you gonna say that they are acting very nicely? I even saw one post in a thread saying they can't wait for the raiders to cry about the relics. Honestly, attitudewise, both sides are guilty of doing something they aren't proud of. My point is, the non raiders here or even raiders, whatever, making fun of the other for not having what the other have is basically the pot calling the kettle black.

Tl;dr if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all(something I need to follow too but struggles to do)

[NorthernLadMSP]

To me, it's never been about making fun of anyone (and I haven't). I stated I have no sympathy for the people that chose to talk sh** about relic holders for so long, only to come back and be mad that the relic is now the best weapon in the game (for the time being).

[Wintersandman]

To me, it's never been about making fun of anyone (and I haven't). I stated I have no sympathy for the people that chose to talk sh** about relic holders for so long, only to come back and be mad that the relic is now the best weapon in the game (for the time being).

This is the problem, is what NorthernLad is saying. Which I tried to emphasize in my earlier post. I am not bad mouthing anyone and neither is NorthernLad. But for the past 3 months no one has brought up "Dreadwyrm Glow" until Zeta was released. Now Zeta is equal or better than dreadwyrm it almost feels like the dreadwyrm only holders are feeling left out especially since over the past 6-9 months they have been saying "Don't do relic get T9/T13".

[Noira]

Agree with the above two, the amount of times I've been called causal and "bad" because I can't clear t9 (it's not about skill funny enough, I just can't find anyone who WANTS to set aside their time to help me clear (clear not carry I've never been carried through anything).

So rather than sit around doing nothing, I've decided to put my time into relic, in the hopes of finally getting an FC willing to help me clear the damn thing so I can start on FcoB.

Besides didn't you guys get a unique glow for t9 weapons ? Doesn't ironworks glow ?

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Wintersandman is spot on.

I don't know how many times I've heard the same BS comments about relics being inferior/not worth it/waste of time/for casuals only. Now, that these Zetas are out, and the best weapons in the game, now those same people that never bothered to do any of it, want something that the relic people have that is special.

I have no sympathy at all for anyone that chose to ignore the relic and are now mad/jealous/envious of what the relic currently is.

Let me add a different view on this:

I love Coil. Everyone knows this. Everyone knows the whole reason I began raiding was because the relic just didn't hold me. It wasn't even about the gear or having the absolute best really. I personally just needed something else to drive me. But the relic IS the best. I knew it would be; everyone knew it would be. So more than just being sour over a glow, what REALLY stings is this: You can have the absolute best weapon in game and never so much as set foot in Turn 1. It's a long, slow, easy climb up the mountain. . . So then, why ever raid? Why challenge yourself to do anything difficult or get better or learn to play well in a team at a high level when you can just take the long, easy road and come out on top, at least as far as weapons are concerned?

Personally, I don't want the Dreadwyrm to glow. But more than just wanting one, how about something that at least makes it all feel worthwhile? Push myself to be the best I can be, but settle for second best gear? Cool, I'll be sure to skip Alexander and just take the long, easy road in Heavensward. Clearly, all else isn't necessary.

[ZhycranaDranix]

When I was doing my mnk relic, I was watching anime and eating while doing some stuff for work. I even taught my sister basic controls and told her to "kill stuff with a purple thing above their head along the blue area"(fates) while I sleep. I ran with friends in dungeons while screwing around. I did the light grinds half asleep, I asked people to watch fates for my books while I somtimes watch for them. How can you possibly consider that an achievement? It's just pure grind...if you look at it as a time sink achievement then I guess.

I'm sorry we don't all have people to slave for us while we you know live life......and have to you know go to work etc etc...I speak for the common casuals that obtaining a End game i135 relic is an achievement ..Not just the Zeta phase .....but sticking through all the BS , all the ''its not BiS'' , gil spending , farming hrs etc etc it is an Achievement knock off some of those slave hours you induced on others while we grinded and you might feel a sense of achievement too