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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTough View Post
    How do these stats work in the races?(seems more of a question for SE) My second chocobo is losing worse than my first chocobo in the R-80's races with about 20% better stats than my original bird. I can't seem to get first at all anymore.
    From my observations I have a theory behind how the stats actually work.

    Let's use the maximum speed stat as the example here as it's the simplest to understand in regards to my theory. What I propose is that there is a maximum visual speed (how fast the chocobo appears to be running when we look at it) already in place for every track, so regardless of your maximum speed stat you can never actually run faster than this maximum visual speed cap. Now that we have that concept in our heads i'll explain how this works when you add more than one chocobo to the line up.

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    The chocobo with the highest maximum speed stat is able to obtain this maximum visual speed we talked about while every other chocobo can only obtain a percentage of this maximum visual speed which is relative to the difference between the highest maximum speed stat and their own. A simpler way to put it would be the difference between the highest maximum speed stat and everyone else's dictates how quickly each chocobo can visually sprint comapred to the maximum visual speed.

    My reasoning behind this theory is that from careful observations while gaining a total of 68 ranks so far is that there appears to be no signifigant increase in how quickly you can complete any given track. I have observed a rank 10 chocobo sprinting on a course just as quickly as a rank 48 chocobo with a much higher maximum speed stat.

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    Further reasoning behind my theory is that SE, me and you would benefit from such a system because it means we can not progressively complete a course in less time the more we race it which gives everyone a very similar progression curve in the amount of races they can actually fit into any given time period. This stops players from being able to gain even more xp advantages on top of their current stat advantage by not being able to fit significantly more races into the same time period another player with a lower maximum speed and/or rank could.

    Does that make sense to you guys?
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    my first chocobo is a pedigree level 1, a rank 47 and rating 57
    he has 2 stars everywhere
    i started giving him grade 2 endurance and speed then grade 1
    he still have 2 stars at these attributes so i feed it for nothing

    then i don't understand what to do :
    i need to retire my chocobo and get a "retired chocobo registration" ???
    i need to get a "covering permission form" ???
    but which one : G1, G2... or G9 ???
    what grade is my chocobo ???
    pedigree = grade ???
    the 2 chocobos need to be the same grade or pedigree ???
    if pedigree 1 + pedigree 1 = pedigree 2, then pedigree 2 + pedigree 2 = pedigree 3 or 4 ???
    chocobos from stock are G1, where do i get G2+ ???
    what do i need to do to get a 3 stars chocobo ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fealow View Post
    The chocobo with the highest maximum speed stat is able to obtain this maximum visual speed we talked about while every other chocobo can only obtain a percentage of this maximum visual speed which is relative to the difference between the highest maximum speed stat and their own. A simpler way to put it would be the difference between the highest maximum speed stat and everyone else's dictates how quickly each chocobo can visually sprint comapred to the maximum visual speed.

    My reasoning behind this theory is that from careful observations while gaining a total of 68 ranks so far is that there appears to be no signifigant increase in how quickly you can complete any given track. I have observed a rank 10 chocobo sprinting on a course just as quickly as a rank 48 chocobo with a much higher maximum speed stat.

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    Could it not simply be because your maximum speed stats might be greatly higher, your actual speed stats isnt?
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    ok got my first baby today heres what i have.

    my choco:
    all 2 star

    mommy pedigree 9:
    3 star - speed
    3 star - accel
    1 star - endur
    2 star- stam
    3 star- cunn

    my baby has:
    pedigree 2
    3 star- speed caped 180
    2 star- accel caped 140
    1 star-endur caped 100
    2 star-stam caped 140
    3 star- cunning caped at 180

    so, im thinkng that no matter what you breed your choco with it will only go up a possible one grade of pedigree, this may only have an effect on what your choco stats start at, and at pedigree 2, im start at 25,18,15,17,20.

    has anyone jumped more then one pedigree? other then raiseing your stat caps potentially higher quicker, and possible better abilities,(mine took my origanls ability, which now is locked) there doesnt seem to be much of an advantage. with rng, and gp costs, i think saving all your gp till you finally get to pedigree 8-9, and then rolling the dice on the 10 breeds you have to hopefully get the rng you want.also, once you retire a grade 7 and then a grade 8, will breeding them together give a 9?? we dont know yet, but to me spending any gp not needed to spend at this point doesnt make sence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Could it not simply be because your maximum speed stats might be greatly higher, your actual speed stats isnt?
    I'll elaborate.

    The rank 48 chocobo was mine and it had 60/100 in the maximum speed stat, it was sprinting at the same visual speed as a rank 10 chocobo that had somewhere between 20-25/100 in its maximum speed stat. Those numbers would suggest that my rank 48 chocobo should be able to at least sprint twice as fast as the rank 10 chocobo. Yet when you compare the visual maximum speed of each one in different races it is the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fealow View Post
    I'll elaborate.

    The rank 48 chocobo was mine and it had 60/100 in the maximum speed stat, it was sprinting at the same visual speed as a rank 10 chocobo that had somewhere between 20-25/100 in its maximum speed stat. Those numbers would suggest that my rank 48 chocobo should be able to at least sprint twice as fast as the rank 10 chocobo. Yet when you compare the visual maximum speed of each one in different races it is the same.
    Did you take into account possible favorite weather conditions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Did you take into account possible favorite weather conditions?
    I did, both were running in neutral weather conditions. However do you honestly think something like favored weather is going to make up for that much of a gap in stats between a rank 10 and rank 48?
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    Fealow is it Possible That Rank 10 was a 2nd or 3rd generation Chocobo?
    And Also if you have 60 stat in speed and not as much in Cunning, Acceleration then
    the Other chocobo who has that 20-25 speed stat with a higher acceleration and cunning than you would be gaining more and loosing less speed than you after/before turns.

    I have beaten rank 20+ with a 1 rank and 40+ with a 9 rank G-5 chocobo.
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