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  1. #1481
    Player
    SummerRider's Avatar
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    Summer Rider
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    @Magusrex
    Tell your RL friend to play another class besides healer if he is that bad. Or just flat out tell him, "I'm not in the mood right now, I'm going to do X instead."

    The question you should be asking is: "Am I enjoying this?" If the answer is no, then if you continue, it most likely will lead to you stopping playing altogether.
    (2)

  2. #1482
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    TruebladeNuke's Avatar
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    Mist, in a mercenary HQ
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    Felicia Meracle
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Well, I said I'd eventually get around to posting my own healer horror stories so here it goes.

    1: (Most recent) To be fair, this falls under more of a "WTFWHM" moment, but I'll post it here anyway. As I was running as a Tank in an Expert Duty Roulette today, and the moment Wanderer's Palace HM loaded, the duty commenced instantly. I thought to myself "Oh. Well this'll be a quick run." What happens? Both the WHM and the MNK run off instantly without the WHM even bothering to cast Protect. I quickly decided to move forward myself thinking these 2 were about to commit suicide if I didn't charge with them. Thankfully, they both stopped after a bit, but then the WHM just started strafing left and right, popping on Cleric Stance. I was yelling "At LEAST cast Protect before we proceed you dufus." in my head.

    After a couple more seconds, he finally Swiftcasted Protect. Given the way things were going, I settled for just a group Protect and pressed on, as it was obvious the WHM didn't seem to care about giving party buffs all that much. Everything went smoothly up until we got to the first boss, where both the WHM and the MNK promptly left. (At least they did that BEFORE I decided to charge the boss) Both me and the BRD got replacements rather quickly, and after I told them that they suddenly left, one of them implied "Light Windows must have changed."

    I swear, Light Farming has horrible affects on player mindsets. Leaving a dungeon right away just because Light Windows changed. Bah.

    (The rest will be related to times that I myself was a Healer, I promise)

    2: Any time a Tank instantly charges off without waiting for me to cast Protect at least. I've seen a couple stories in here already about that, so I'll refrain from repeats.

    3: Any time a Tank pulls more then they can chew with their current rather low level gear, and promptly blames the healer. (More detailed version later on)

    4: Any time Tanks start having Epeen wars in any of the Crystal Tower raids. World of Darkness being the worst.

    (More detailed stories now)

    5: One time while running Brayflox NM, I ended up being sent into a party that was down a healer and DPS. I filled the Healer spot as a WHM, as I needed the place for my WHM animus book. Found out why the previous Healer and DPS left soon after I joined. That Tank... was NOT a Tank. The Tank couldn't figure out how to hold aggro on mobs of enemies. He'd select one target and would be completely oblivious to all the other enemies around him. This often left with me with no room to turn on Cleric Stance to help DPS because the enemies would often keep going everywhere attacking everyone else that wasn't being targeted by the Tank, most often me. (Cause you know... dat heal hate generation)

    I'd work around this as best as I could by using Fluid Aura on any enemy targeting me and then putting them to sleep. (Or just sleeping them) Made worse by the fact that sometimes when I put an enemy to sleep, THAT'S when the Tank runs over and hits it, waking it right back up, and then doesn't bother to actually pull hate off of me. (Starts spamming Fast Blade, Riot Blade instead) Had a tendency to stop and run in circles while we're waiting for him to pull the next mob.

    Both boss battles I participated in got messy fast because the Tank had serious issues on holding hate, resulting in me spending 100% of my time just trying to keep everyone alive. Upon reaching the final boss, the biggest offense came up. He not only never bothered to dodge the boss's easily avoidable AoE breath most of he time, he would never move the boss off the poison puddles it spat out, resulting the boss never being able to die. Eventually, one of the DPS just told me "Stop healing him. I'll ninja Tank it. >_>" I was quick to agree, because the "Tank" was obviously not listening to us when we were constantly telling him to get the dragon off the puddles.

    While I patted myself on the back for keeping the bad Tank alive for not dodging anything, it DID cost me all my MP on our first attempt... through just healing. So I let the Tank die, and we started letting the Ninja tank the boss. Already went WAY better when the NIN started Tanking. Still wiped due to lack of MP though. On second run, I didn't even bother healing the Tank and allowed him to die, so that the rest of us could just 3 man the dragon while reserving my MP for a player who actually knew the meaning of the word "dodge". We won 3 manning the dragon. Guess who got my commend at the end? (In that regard, I got both of the DPS's commends I assume, as I left with 2 commends myself)

    6: I don't remember all the exact details of this one as this happened a fair while ago now, but this one will never leave my head. Ever. One time while I signed up for a Trial Duty Roulette as a SCH, I ended up in a Garuda HM party of people who's gear levels were all rather low except for mine. It was obvious there was no burn rushing this battle. After applying Protect and Stoneskin to everyone, the Tanks quickly charged before I could ask if the newcomers needed any explanation. (A newcomer message clearly flashed) Everything went smoothly at first though. They hid behind the rocks, the Tanks actually held her aggro and kept her back turned, and they knew about knocking out the feathers. (The way people are SUPPOSED to this fight, instead of the ever so constant light grinding way everyone does now, including myself, lol)

    But once Garuda wrecked the rocks with her signature attack, this is when EVERYTHING went down hill. First thing the Tanks try to do is Tank her in the middle... where one of the 4 freaking tornado AoE's spawn. Said Tanks and DPS start promptly getting pushed around, with DPS falling like flies to an insect zapper. I promptly have to start popping Swiftcast and rez spells on various DPS all while trying to keep the MT alive, made a bit easier by the fact that the other Healer was also trying to get rezs off and keep the MT alive. Said DPS that just rezzed promptly go and stand in more easily avoidable AoE bursts and die again, downing us to just 2 DPS, and then 3 as I got off a regular rez cast time spell on one of them.

    Upon the shift in which Garuda calls in more feathers, along with the Satin Plume, the Tanks make no effort to rotate her with the rotating Tornados, resulting in more un-necessary damage, resulting in me having to pour more of my MP and Aether reserves into the MT, while one of the DPS blindly step into the tornados and die again. During the phase of which she finally calls upon the arena hurricane effect that they were used to seeing on NM, both Tanks and DPS take the hurricane effect as well, resulting in us now being down to one DPS. Again. Did I mention in all this time, the OT never bothered to grab the adds, nor the MT, resulting in the adds pestering both the DPS and ESPECIALLY the healers all this time? Said adds never got burned down fast enough either, even though DPS obviously shifted their attention towards the adds (While OT didn't), resulting in more un-needed chaos. During the hurricane phase, one of the DPS has the gall to call out both healers (one of them being me) on not healing them enough, even though they keep standing in easily avoidable AoEs and the OT is doing nothing to help with the adds. At this point, I had already popped 5 or 6 rezzes on the DPS, was down to no MP left to rez with, keeping what little I had left for healing the MT, and no Aether reserves left either, with Aetherflow on cooldown.

    I simply reply "Problem. MP." (I was down to about 700 MP left out of my max of 4399 something) He has the gall to then say "THEN USE AETHERFLOW! ENERGY DRAIN!" ... which I've been doing the whole fight trying to keep my MP up. At this point, I became annoyed and responded "I've been doing that the whole freaking fight." I mean seriously, did that guy honestly think I was just spamming heal spells with no regard to the use of Aetherflow and Energy Drain? Seriously, I've NEVER had MP problems in any fight as a SCH, but the moment this fight came along, I couldn't even keep my MP up as a SCH. Eventually, one of the other DPS finally asks to just allow the wipe to happen, which I did because it was obvious the OT wasn't paying a lick of attention and the DPS were all suffering from "Brink of Death" status now.

    What happens the moment round 2 begins? I get kicked. ME. (And I assume the other healer too, who probably said "no" to opting to kick me) The one who never died to Garuda the whole fight. The one who got off 7 freaking rezzes during round 1. The one who kept the MT alive from his own stupidity of standing in the tornados. Their first response to the wipe is to kick me. I crossed my fingers that any other healers that got sucked into TRYING to help those "players" promptly left themselves upon seeing who they were dealing with.

    Crap like that is why healers opt to just leave on their own and leave the Tanks and DPS to their demise. This is why healers leave duties on their own accord. To this day, I still feel like that group left me with cancer and a rotting brain, of which I even (accidentally) shouted out in Mor Dhona. The best relief I got from that was the following responses:

    "Daaaaammmmmmnnnnnn! That is ****** up!"
    "At least it wasn't herpes..."
    (7)
    Last edited by TruebladeNuke; 02-27-2015 at 08:09 AM. Reason: Nazi Grammer Corrections!

  3. #1483
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    Seryl199's Avatar
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Popped into stone vigil hard mode for my zodiac drop, found myself with ragnarok warrior, and high geared brd and blm. After buffs, off goes the tank, pulling everything to the door. Then pops no cooldowns, hits the floor, followed by the party. Well, saw that coming. Buff up again, the tank says, "stay with me, spam cure II" Duh, I just tried that, he died before getting aggro on every mob. This time, my DS cure II hits him at 400 hp, and I manage to keep him up. After the pull, the tank declares, "no cooldowns!"

    Idiot, it's because you have a good, overgeared healer. I tell him I'd be happy to add dps if he uses cooldowns, and he says "we have two great dps." Hello? You mass pull for efficiency, having healer dps is even more efficient. No logic here. Then, at the first boss, adds pop. I kite them from the boss a bit, keep doing my thing, and notice the dps are ignoring the adds and staying on the boss. The brd yells at me to holy the adds. So much for "great" dps. I get slowed, almost die, kill the adds, and the boss goes down. I promptly left, hoping an i70 healer would join them after and slow their run to a crawl.
    (6)

  4. #1484
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    aisustrong's Avatar
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    Aisu Strong
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke View Post
    While I patted myself on the back for keeping the bad Tank alive for not dodging anything, it DID cost me all my MP on our first attempt... through just healing. So I let the Tank die, and we started letting the Ninja tank the boss. Already went WAY better when the NIN started Tanking. Still wiped due to lack of MP though. On second run, I didn't even bother healing the Tank and allowed him to die, so that the rest of us could just 3 man the dragon while reserving my MP for a player who actually knew the meaning of the word "dodge". We won 3 manning the dragon. Guess who got my commend at the end? (In that regard, I got both of the DPS's commends I assume, as I left with 2 commends myself)
    was he a gla with shit gear? ive gotten that retard 3 times so far, every time on brayflox
    and I think that nin tanking boss was one of those times
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  5. #1485
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    DarkmoonVael's Avatar
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    So going for the zodiac drops for The Last Resort (second zodiac, so running all dungeons on sch so i can combine the nexus light grind stage with zodiac drop stage) and have noticed a propensity of tanks in df who dont understand the entire vit/str balance. Got into snowcloak, pld tank, just above 5000k hp (700 less than my fairy has, 1000 less than me) not even i90 left side, but i100+ accessories.....all strength. Well it was fun, nice player, though very very very difficult to heal.
    Sunkern Temple HM, pld, high allagan gear, looks hopeful. Well turns out they dont know how to pld to save their life. Big big big pulls, which are no problem at all for me......if you know how to use cooldowns. First pull tank waits until 2 mobs are left alive, both less than 50% hp, then hits sentinal O.o. Oh joy. Get to bosses, the tank decides to change to "dps". All vit accessories are changed to strength, sword oath it engaged. Again this is fine, my raid team members do this when we run dungeons.....but they know how to use cooldowns......this tank doesnt. So every boss, its a struggle to keep up with this tank. Constantly been taken down to less than 50% hp in one hit. Sigh sigh sigh.
    Also, when you do this as a tank, and make sure your healer can not dps in cleric stance, think of all the dps the team is missing out in total. Its not always the case that the teams dps goes up just because you go into sword oath/full strength accessories.
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  6. #1486
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    raela's Avatar
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Bray NM run.. Low roulette finally broke me.

    I was on my level 43 WHM, and am still not entirely comfortable with DPSing/MP management. We go to kill the first group of mobs and the SMN does not have his pet out. I comment about it and he summons Ifrit. Trash is taking a bit to kill, even with me DPSing.. and I notice the SMN is spamming physick. I tell him I'm good with healing, but he continues. His rotation seems to be spam ruin I until tank drops below 90%, then toss out 10 physicks.

    We get to the first boss and again, SMN spends time physicking the tank (does not throw dots, lets his pet die) and the tank doesn't bother picking up the add, which runs over and eats my face. I get annoyed and start yelling at the SMN to DPS instead of heal (yeah, bad on me.. patience died). We wipe, come back, and have another messy go at it (this time with tank actually picking up add). Once boss is over and loot is rolled on, I initiate vote-kick on the SMN since I'm in a bad mood. It goes through.

    Tank immediately makes a pissy comment and quits, then the other dps (MNK) leaves soon after. I quit, yell angry things at my friend, then re-queue low roulette. I get into Bray NM in-progress, see a DPS say farewell to the tank, and see that DPS leave. It's at the final boss with 15 minutes left, and surprisingly enough, the remaining DPS is the same monk from my failed run. I suggest we just try to 3-man it instead of waiting for a DPS.. and we smoothly clear it without any issues. Friend suggested I stay out of low roulette for awhile.
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  7. #1487
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    One of my special pet peeves is BLMs and SMNs stopping to cast weak Physicks when they ought to be DPSing.

    If the healer(s) clearly can't be bothered or trusted to save you and that tiny heal will make the difference for the next hit, sure, go for it. But most of the time I watch them die to avoidable damage while standing there trying to self-heal from otherwise non-lethal damage.
    (1)

  8. #1488
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    Magusrex's Avatar
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    Sinystrad Daxx
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    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke View Post
    SNIP"
    How you post so many characters I have a 1000 limit
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  9. #1489
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Magusrex View Post
    How you post so many characters I have a 1000 limit
    Edit your post to bypass limit.
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  10. #1490
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    Sinystrad Daxx
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    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 54
    Most of my problems are my friends Copperbell mines hard, couldn't finish due to timer insane. General public it's Crystal tower, and it is generally the other healers. I focus the MT, why is my regen the only one? Why do I have raise people in your groups when both of you are alive? I have to keep my groups alive, the MT and you alive? Most of the time in CT i keep all the healers with SS and Regen, the MT with regen and keep my bene ready because the healers in the MT group must looking at their fingers instead health bars. I feel like i am going to give myself carpal tunnel. As soon as I think people got this I can keep my group alive make sure the MT stays up and Im chill all the other healers are dead WTF. So i just go like a crazy person there always and don't stop. I could be part of the problem because when Im there they probably think this is easy as hell I can go get a drink.
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