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  1. #11
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    Kuinu Aladrow
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    Im unable to record any video here for the time being, even though I would like to show what do I do.

    But I insist; I'm doing all I can and more, but it's still not enough. What is left to be done?
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  2. #12
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    It sounds like the pressure of the situation is getting to you. Messing up your rotation, letting huton fall off, dropping mudra combos - All of these things can have substantial impacts to your overall DPS.

    The best thing you can do is practice. Practice your rotation so much that you can do it without looking at your hotbars. Practice it so much that you can do it without looking at your screen at all. Learn the timing so that it becomes muscle memory. Your "mental issue" causes you to have trouble focusing on 2 things at once right? In FCoB you have to focus on both your rotation and the fight mechanics. So try and learn your rotation so well that you don't have to think about it any more and can focus on the fight at hand.

    FCoB is meant to be stressful. It is meant to test your multi-tasking ability. It is meant to be difficult. Practice hard on the dummy and it will pay off.
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  3. #13
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    I do not doubt that practicing might help. However, it is not 100% sure that I'll be on par with most ninjas and melee DPS if I practice more and more at the dummy right? Since so far, I haven't seen positive results, the DPS improvements I got over the 3 weeks are just result of my gear improvement, and I don't want to give effort to something that's just not working for me.

    If I wasn't limited by time, it'd be a bit different, but yeah, since I'm foreseeing the worst scenario posible coming, I'm afraid I won't be able to clear T13 for Heavensward if this keeps up.
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  4. #14
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    Vik Vicious
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    You mentioned that you're item level 123, but what level is your weapon? What are your Crit & Det values? What food do you use, if any? What does your opener look like?

    There are a ton of factors that contribute to DPS.

    I don't believe your connection is the issue here. I play with anywhere between 50-80ms ping just fine.

    And, If you haven't already, take a look at this thread.
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  5. #15
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    I use Diamond Daggers. As for food, whenever I need accuracy, I eat up Lava Toads Legs that give accuracy and critical hit rate. On other cases, I eat Black Truffle Rissotos. Both of them Hq, of course.

    I already saw part of that thread, it doesn't seem able to solve my specific issue.

    I honestly have a hard time choosing my openers. I know there are 2 viable methods; Begin the battle 15 seconds after Huton to take advantage of an early+buffed trick attack, or to start right as you cast Huton, throwing in all the cooldowns. However, our raid tank (Raid that, by the way, as I feared, just broke up...) would randomly rush in, even if told to wait, at unexpected times. I choose either one to the situation.

    My critical hit rate is 458 and my determination is 351. My Skill Speed is 446, and my attackpower/DEX is 625. Accuracy is as low as 498, but that's solved on T10 and T11 with food. I've seen a thing or two about weight values, but I don't know what all that is about...
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  6. #16
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    Considering your weapon, you're really not that far behind. I think I was parsing 530 (no pot/food/party) on dummies with i115 Nexus, but it was nearly full Crit/Det whereas Diamond Daggers don't provide anything but SS and Acc.

    I'd recommend trading some of that skill speed for crit and a bit of accuracy when you can though. For Ninja, you don't really want more than 420ish skill speed. The reasoning here is that, while it will increase damage output, it's the lowest weighted stat and burns up your TP in any normal-length fight. Crit is good, but in the end it's RNG. Determination, however, will always give you results. Weapon Damage trumps all though, and by a huge margin.

    It's hard to say for sure what, if anything, is wrong here without seeing you play, but there are no glaring issues in what you've posted.

    It sounds to me like more experience is what's needed, not just in Coil, but with Ninja in general. I'm sustaining around 580 in T11 now with my Zodiac, and that's only possible due to the ins and outs I've learned while playing Ninja since patch 2.4. Did you know, for any duty with a super-fast start (Garuda HM for instance), you can cast Huton before you even enter the instance? It's little things like that, the timing of your healer's buffs, or how your tanks pull that you learn through experience and use to your advantage.

    Learn your opener on dummies, practice it in duties, always look for advantages and never stop learning.
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  7. #17
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    I find myself unable to do any more improvement to my equipment, since I just lost my job here, so to say, so for the time being, I can't replace anything.

    I must say, though, thatwhile I thank all of these tips, informative stuff (Well, I didnt know you could Huton right before entering an instance, and I just learnt a few days ago Dancing Edge doesn't affect the damage on DoTs), I am honestly thick-headed: I cannot see in this very moment how practicing and learning more is going to drastically change my DPS by +100. I mean, I've said repeated times I did what I could this past month, and it still doesn't seem enough.

    To me, it's like a fairy tale.
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  8. #18
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    Nothing is going to "drastically change" your DPS except a higher ilvl weapon. I should have clarified. Cleaning up your opener, lining up DoTs with Buffs, and exploiting any advantages will net you small gains which can add up over time. 515 is decent enough dps for Diamond Daggers, but you should be closer to 525~ I would think. It's only 10-15 DPS, not 100.

    If you want to improve, practice. The only person who can truly help you is you. If you can't push your opener/rotation any further and you're truly doing the best you can with what you have, then don't stress. There's no sense in worrying about what you can't change.
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  9. #19
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    The reason I worry is because there are a lot more melee DPS better than I am, which raid groups would prefer over me. A harsh truth; people wants results, not effort. Everyone's going to give me the nay since others can provide better results. By the time I finish polishing myself, it might be too late.
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    Editing a post will allow you to break through the 1k words limitation per post, if you want to post something long.

    Practice all the things you do at the dummy in heavy AoE instances, its not like you do Coil all the time, right?
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