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  1. #11
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    There's a rat NPC in Upper La Noseca, on the west side of the ferry. He has fairly weak cards with a few mid strong ones. He plays with the Chaos rule.
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  2. #12
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    KinnisonArc's Avatar
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    Kinnison Arcspeed
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    I got better in the game by fighting Gegereju first (he have Minfilia and Y'shtola cards). Find him sitting between the hot chicks at Costa del Sol, he has a fixed "Swap" rules iirc that swaps your card with his. If you're lucky, you can swap off your weakest card with his strongest to level up the playing field. Beat him until you get Minfilia.

    You can actually win Elmer III with your weak cards, but requires you to do a lot of math. He has a fixed "Plus" rules, you can win him by activating this rules to turn the tables around.

    Sometimes, regional rules will change so try and find out when Reverse rules will be applied for that area. When it comes out, grab your weakest cards and butcher all the strong NPCs in that area until you get their respective cards. (Reverse rules makes lowest number beat highest)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Wonder if you can get ultima's card from praetorium or ultima HM.
    You can get Ultima card (4star) from ultima HM according to LS mate, not sure about Prae though.
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  3. #13
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    Aphel's Avatar
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    Moon Kibbles
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    Tonberry
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    There's a rat NPC in Upper La Noseca, on the west side of the ferry. He has fairly weak cards with a few mid strong ones. He plays with the Chaos rule.
    I second this. His gameplay's kinda weak too so it might be a good starting point for stocking up some starter cards.
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  4. #14
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    nuyu11's Avatar
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 70
    Sorry for noob question, how to get the pack?
    I cant fight harder NPC because my card are only basic.
    Not able to explore much yesterday because I'm only able to log in for 1 hours.
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  5. #15
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Are those cards dropped by Primal Hard mode or from dungeons go to your inventory directly? Or they are dropped to the pool and people can lot them?
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  6. #16
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Are those cards dropped by Primal Hard mode or from dungeons go to your inventory directly? Or they are dropped to the pool and people can lot them?
    They randomly drop straight to your inventory when the target dies like regular mob loot. No chests or loot rolls involved.
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  7. #17
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    Spawnie's Avatar
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 80
    http://ffxivtriad.com/

    duel the weaker npcs first lower mgp reward then move to next stage etc etc can get quite a nice stock of cards doin it that way

    atm i have 26 cards and havent even tried farming primals yet lol
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  8. #18
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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Getting started advice: Focus on people with the Plus rule as a fixed rule to get one strong card using just your weak ones. Good choices are King Elmer III (Godbert, Bahamut) and Sezul Totoloc (Cid, Biggs&Wedge, Behemoth) [requires high Ixali rank]. Once you have at least one strong card, destroy the easy NPCs to grow your card collection, starting with the first two in the Gold Saucer (Jonas of the Three Spades and Guhtwint of the Three Diamonds) until you get all of the cards they can drop (2 each). Use the Bronze Pack trick (buy 500 MGP, earn 20 MGP, buy Bronze pack, repeat) to quickly get some starter cards if you want, but note that they are all obtainable eventually without ever buying a Bronze card pack (the Bronze pack trick is just super fast).

    Here are the full card pack lists and which ones are unique to the packs:

    Bronze (520 MGP)
    • Pudding * (also obtainable from: Roger)
    • Coblyn * (also obtainable from: Maisenta)
    • Spriggan * (also obtainable from: Triple Triad Master)
    • Goobue * (also obtainable from: Mother Miounne, Aurifort of the Three Clubs)
    • Scarface Bugaal Ja ** (also obtainable from: Guhtwint of the Thee Diamonds)
    • Behemoth *** (also obtainable from: Sezul Totoloc, Ourdilic)

    Silver (1,152 MGP)
    • Kobold * (Unique as far as we know so far)
    • Tataru Taru * (Unique as far as we know so far)
    • Sylph * (also obtainable from: Maisenta, Mother Miounne)
    • Urianger *** (also obtainable from: Ruhtwyda of the Three Hearts)
    • Minfilia **** (also obtainable from: Gegeruju)
    • Lahabrea **** (Unique as far as we know so far)

    Gold (2,160 MGP)
    • Momodi Modi ** (also obtainable from: Momodi)
    • Baderon Tenfingers ** (also obtainable from: Baderon)
    • Mother Miounne ** (also obtainable from: Mother Miounne)
    • Gerolt ** (also obtainable from: Helmhart, Rowena)
    • Ultima Weapon **** (also obtainable from: Ultima Hard Mode)
    • Cid Garlond **** (also obtainable from: Sezul Totoloc)
    • Warrior of Light ***** (Unique as far as we know so far)
    • Zidane Tribal ***** (Unique as far as we know so far)

    Individuals
    • Chocobo * (600 MGP) (also obtainable from: Jonas of the Three Spades, Guhtwint of the Thee Diamonds)
    • Moogle * (840 MGP) (also obtainable from: Jonas of the Three Spades, Trachtoum)
    • Raya-O-Senna & A-Ruhn-Senna *** (4,800 MGP) (also obtainable from: Buscarron, Landenel)
    • Godbert Manderville *** (9,600 MGP) (also obtainable from: Ruhtwyda of the Three Hearts, King Elmer III, Hab)
    • Nanamo Ul Namo ***** (400,000 MGP) (Unique as far as we know so far)
    • Cloud Strife ***** (1,000,000 MGP) (Unique as far as we know so far)

    So, Bronze has zero unique cards, but it's basically free (20 MGP over the base). Silver's rarest and commonest cards are unique. Only the rarest Gold cards are unique, but the commonest is two star, which is very useful to have tons of when you hit the 30 card threshold. Only the two most expensive individual cards are unique and the rest are just a waste of MGP.

    For more info, refer to the link posted above (http://ffxivtriad.com/), this data was extracted from there. It also wasn't on there in an easily viewable format, so I did this for my own benefit to tell which card packs were worth going for. The answer: spam Gold to get more ** to boost me when I hit 30 and have a chance at the rare unique cards.
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 02-26-2015 at 01:50 AM.
    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
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  9. #19
    Player
    CodeCass's Avatar
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    Deucalion Promethuson
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    Adamantoise
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    They randomly drop straight to your inventory when the target dies like regular mob loot. No chests or loot rolls involved.
    This is the best news I've heard today.
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    "Be Excellent to Each Other..."
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Best thing I did was getting out the Gold Saucer and running around challenging NPC in the world. Was able to get 15 cards last night.
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