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    Quote Originally Posted by Celvantis View Post
    I don't belive Halone literally appeared, and walked them over. I'm of the idea they used her idea, such as holy men talking in her name and making such claims as she wants this, or that or was even a idea added to the founding story years after to solidify a theocratic state.
    Whether or not Halone literally spoke with them, I'd like to know where the Ishgardians originated. My guess is still Gelmorra.

    Quote Originally Posted by Celvantis View Post
    Gelmorra wasnt destroyed but abandoned as it outlived its usefulness. Once the pact with the elementals was made it was no longer needed to live underground. The Duskwights seemed to of stayed abit longer and been abit resentful but all in all, they merely left it.
    Interesting. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    I believe it's mentioned somewhere (or maybe just a long ago speculation thread) that the Elezen who did not want to make peace with the Hyur (who had recently came to Eorzea) left Gelmorra and later founded Ishgard. Funny thing about mountains and cold, people can start having visions due to the cold or lack of oxygen.
    Hmmm. I guess it's possible that Hyur ventured into the shroud and were taken into Gelmorra, but is it probable? I mean, if Gridanians now are leery of outsiders because of their pact with the elementals, I can't imagine their attitude toward immigrants was any better before said pact.


    Could it be that someone empowered by Halone came to Thordan, converted him and his men from their previous religion, and guided them to the Holy See? Maybe once conflict between the Ishgardians and Dravanians began, this 'Saint' "betrayed" the people she had led by consorting with their new-found enemy.

    What if the Dravanians aren't as bad as they're made out to be...?

    What if Ishgard fell under Ascian influence not long after it was founded, and their Saint remained pure thanks to a certain divine gift, defecting to the side of lesser evil to put an end to a senseless war?
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 02-25-2015 at 02:01 AM.