What MMO Grind is WORSE than relic/zodiac weapon grind?

[AlexionSkylark]

OOOOOO I remembered another one:

CRAFTING CAPITAL SHIPS IN EVE ONLINE. There's a podcast of a guy who tried to do it and needed TWO YEARS to set up the character to do it, and the first 6 months were just of PLANNING. As in... yeah. Planning. Studying markets and character possibilities and building massive spreadsheets to calculate the best way to do it. Not to mention the MASSIVE initial investment in ISK (virtual currency) needed to even begin to set up stuff. Think about something roughly equivalent to 100 million Gil in FF14, maybe more.

... Only to have his facilities (and all the work) destroyed in a PvP faction war when he was 3/4 underway of setting up his hangars.

[Hik0]

What MMO Grind is WORSE than relic/zodiac weapon grind?

Original relics in ffxi.

even leveling your 1st job/sub to 75/37 was worse grind than XIV zodiac.

[SgtPepperUK]

Whilst LOTRO was fairly casual it had a virtue system that was extremely grindy, even more so once they raised caps on the virtues (partly to drive people to the store for boosts). Whilst some were obtained via questing/exploring many involved killing mobs. A lot of mobs.

It took a special kind of masochist to grind virtues not just for a main character but for alts too.

[Ehayte]

EQ epic weapons weren't really grinds for the most part (each class had a different quest so maybe a couple were), but most of them required killing stuff that was already competed for like raid bosses. Some of them had long prerequisite quests too. On a server with 0 competition where everything was up you could probably bang most of them out in a day if you got lucky on drops.

I just wrote a long post explaining why this isn't true, but let's just say I played EQ for 12 years and played both progression servers. There was A LOT of grinding and/or long camps in a majority of the Epics. Cleric shard farming omfg.

And that was beside getting to the level where you could actually accomplish this stuff. Hell levels at 30, 35, 40, 45, 51-59. 1-60 in EQ in Ruins of Kunark was... I mean it was a good 6 months unless you were hard core.

[Eardstapa]

Whilst LOTRO was fairly casual it had a virtue system that was extremely grindy, even more so once they raised caps on the virtues (partly to drive people to the store for boosts). Whilst some were obtained via questing/exploring many involved killing mobs. A lot of mobs.

It took a special kind of masochist to grind virtues not just for a main character but for alts too.

That masochist says hi. I feel like Legendary Weapons were far more grindy when introduced in LOTRO than Virtues, merely because 1.6 million experience only from mobs with a level 60 cap was... brutal for merely one freaking level on the weapon.

[Gekipie]

Ragnarok Online, pre cash shop.

[XgungraveX]

Original relics in ffxi.

100 times this

[Lexxuk]

It's not the fact it's a grind, it's the fact it's tedious and you're doing stuff solely for the relic upgrades. XI, sure relic was grindy, but you were doing Dynamis, getting armour, getting your LS geared up, getting your relic there included progression, not doing a level 12 dungeon or spending 4 hours waiting for a FATE to pop. The design is dull, boring, uninspired, a total waste of time. It's not worth getting the relic, the time/grind/effort you put in, it's easily outdone in a couple of hours of raiding.

[IfritReborn]

For FFXI and even Everquest those Relics were BiS. For years later they were still BiS. Even now some are still BiS.

They took a very long time but they were worth it.

[PandaPause]

Original relics in ffxi.

Beat me to it.

Agreed/10char.