Petition to change "A Tankless Job" Achievment Chain

[Grimmel]

There's nothing they can change it to that will increase the tank population. Everything you suggest even the roulette will be exploited, by anyone who wants those ugly mounts, to get as fast as possible. i switched my main to tank maybe 9 months ago first WAR then PLD still don't have either one.

As others have suggested, only having the achievement count towards solo queuing in the dungeon roulette would actually help. I don't see how the roulette would be exploited if you are required to solo queue and complete the entire dungeon to gain a single credit towards this achievement. I actually see it as beneficial to getting tanks into all manner of roulette's (Low, High, Expert, Trial, Main Story.) and not sticking with their statics and pre-formed groups.

[Kosmos992k]

As others have suggested, only having the achievement count towards solo queuing in the dungeon roulette would actually help. I don't see how the roulette would be exploited if you are required to solo queue and complete the entire dungeon to gain a single credit towards this achievement. I actually see it as beneficial to getting tanks into all manner of roulette's (Low, High, Expert, Trial, Main Story.) and not sticking with their statics and pre-formed groups.

I know of another way to make it happen, but it would be unpopular with non tank/healer players....

Make a new achievement for tanks/healers Qing solo (or together) for DR content and make the reward some really cool level 1 armor for glamor purposes. The armor should be somehow themed to the relevant role, so something medical or healing related for healers, and something knight worthy for the knights in shining armor tanking all those dungeons for people. It needs to be something that people actually would want, and ideal be dyeable since otherwise it just becomes very much a uniform.

Hey, perhaps the female healers can get a nurses unifo....scratch that, my wife will kill me...or will she?

[Hiruke]

It kind of says it in there in the second line. :\ To broaden it to four man dungeons and the first few raids for relic.

It does not say it on the second line. You might say the second line implies it, but when you're asking for someone to change something, you should use more clear language. It doesn't say it until the last line, which is not what you bolded.

No amount of achievements is going to make people want to tank. Many people aren't capable of playing dps to the minimum required level to succeed in a dungeon. Even less can do so with tank. A sub par dps might get carried. And is easily replaced. A sub par tank is just a nightmare. No one wants to deal with a bad tank, and not everyone is good enough to be a tank (or believes they are, or want to deal with all the added responsibility), etc. etc.

The real mistake was believing a 2 tank 2 healer 4 dps setup made sense (basically implying that there are as many dps as there are healers and tanks, which is obviously untrue... dps heavily outweight tanks and healers combined). I think how PLD and WAR work together is wonderful, but realistically it would have been better to get 5-6 dps into the standard 8 person setup. Or made the standard full party 10 people instead (making the light party 5 people). Increasing the number of people you need for anything would bring its own problems, though, I imagine.

[BigPapaSmurf]

Once per day getting credit for Low-Level, High-Level, Expert, & Trial Roulettes would be perfect.

[MistyMew]

I say change the design of tanking to be more enjoyable and less demanding for the majority of players, instead of changing the design of a mount reward.

No reward, ever, will increase the amount of ppl willing to play tanks regularly. There may be a brief influx for such rewards but it will never be sustained.
Only a change to the job itself will do that.
Many games tried this bribe theory to offer special rewards,it never works. I mentioned it wouldn't help when they announced the rewards initially

[Dhex]

Tanking is very dull and feels unrewarding fairly quickly.

No achievement is going to fix that.

[Grimmel]

Tanking is very dull and feels unrewarding fairly quickly.

No achievement is going to fix that.

While the achievement itself may not fix it, it will see more tanks in the various roulette's if the requirements for the mounts are changed to include 4 man dungeon content as well as story line raids.

[KirakunAUS]

Nope.
No thanks.

I could easily gotten this while attempting to farm ponies for Kirin.

Heck took me 120 times+ to obtain Titan Pony

[Warlyx]

too many dungeons for a lame mount , that wont even able to fly come 3.0

[Grimmel]

Nope.
No thanks.

I could easily gotten this while attempting to farm ponies for Kirin.

Heck took me 120 times+ to obtain Titan Pony

Do you have a counter argument for why this shouldn't be changed other than "LolNopeLol"?

too many dungeons for a lame mount , that wont even able to fly come 3.0

You won't be able to fly in current 2.x.x zones so it still has it's value and value to collectors.