You want me to do WHAT? Watch a VIDEO of the fight first?!

[Magis]

If its DF well you can't force anything and expecting people to us dumb.

But a party finder party van set w.e rules they want

[Magis]

If its DF well you can't force anything and expecting people to us dumb.

But a party finder party van set w.e rules they want

Is* Can*. Is it possible to edit on mobile?

[Solsanna]

Is it bad that I laugh maniacally when I go into DF blind and say nothing about how I have no idea what's going on because I find it fun to experience stuff au naturale, even if I wipe or whatnot?

If it is, then same on you, cutting edge raiders. Wait till the vids are out.

[Sadana]

Go in blind, go with friends! It's lots of fun. ^^
Go in the DF, expect anything... including people who give you grief for not knowing what you are doing.
If the PF says it's a farm party, don't sign up unless you know the fight already. ><
And, if it's an old fight but new to you, but you don't have people to go with, use the PF to make a learning party.

And, yes, we've seen this thread too much. >< I will ask again that SE includes some method of checking "watch CS" or "speedrun" in the DF since the PF is too limited (need more people than what is just available at that time on your server as well as the fact that the Party Finder is not explained to new players nor suggested over the DF for CS watching.)

[LalaRu]

I'm pretty amused of players that call themselves "veterans" and still expecting kill parties using DF. Call them "griefers".

[Craiger]

Are we talking about DF or PF ?

I don't do anything via DF that requires any real knowledge, so it can be easily explained, the rest I do via PF.

When using PF though, unless someone specifically states that you don't need any knowledge of the fight, you are just going to waste people's time... And just as you don't want to waste time watching videos of fights, a lot of people don't want to waste time teaching a player and having multiple wipes because of him/her.

Why is it such a pain for some to just watch a video btw? If there are known tactics of a fight, I will always watch a video and read guides about the fight once or more depending on difficulty. If you do Coil, it's a must for most players, unless you're one of the hardcore statics that beat it first.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's a bit funny how the idea of using a guide has changed over the years. Back in the day, admitting you used a strategy guide to beat something would have people demanding to turn in your gamer card. Nowadays, you NEED to read a guide just to get anywhere or do anything. Which makes me wonder....why not just spell out everything in the games if this is how guide use will be?

[am0n]

This is one of those times where the expectation is DF is *not* that they have watched videos. Because you can't enforce it. If you absolutely must have people who are experienced or watched the videos, make a PF group yourself.

[Wobble]

I question this, frankly. I think they purposefully design fights knowing that we'll be making videos and guides to them.

I question this myself considering the people that made the videos or guides did not have a video, or did they? The content was meant to be experienced by the individual however they see fit and a video is not required to clear anything in game or SE would have put them out themselves.

[Laraul]

Not sure why people say "watch a video" and then expect people to understand what to expect. You learn thru practice, not by watching videos.

A video can help you prepare for a fight perhaps, but it can't teach you. I would prefer written guides that explain everything in detail, so I can quickly skip to the section I need to know. Unfortunately these guides don't really exist.