Seriously SE???

[Moqi]

What in what we have seen in Heavensward looks recycled?

Au ra are reskinned Miqo'te. They surely didn't put much effort into making yet another "humans with weird ears and a tale" race.

[CGMidlander]

Au ra are reskinned Miqo'te. They surely didn't put much effort into making yet another "humans with weird ears and a tale" race.

You're making that assumption based off what, exactly? The superficial details you glanced from the trailers?

Until we see the quality of lore written about them, the amount of new and unique movements that have been motion captured...etc. , it'd be unfair to assume.

[Moqi]

You're making that assumption based off what, exactly? The superficial details you glanced from the trailers?

We have artworks and models, it's really not just an assumption. Lore and animations have nothing to do with sticking a bunch of dragon ears and a tail on a jailbait and calling it a day. Coming up with that look wasn't a 40$ effort, you can tell that much already.

[CGMidlander]

We have artworks and models, it's really not just an assumption. Lore and animations have nothing to do with sticking a bunch of dragon ears and a tail on a jailbait and calling it a day. Coming up with that look wasn't a 40$ effort, you can tell that much already.

Lore and animation most certainly do have importance in differentiating races.

Otherwise, Miqo'te are just Hyur with cat ears and tails right?
Roes are just resized Hyur with different skin colour?
Elezen are really tall Hyur with pointy ears and small heads.
Lalafell are small, fat Hyur, I guess.
Au Ra are Hyur with scaly patches, a tail, and dragon horns.

Damn, SE is so uncreative with all these bipedal races.

[Moqi]

Lore and animation most certainly do have importance in differentiating races.

Visually, they don't. That's what I'm talking about but you keep bringing up lore like it's got anything to do with it. Mi'qote too are humans cat ears, yes. It's lazy and cheap, we had them and Padjal already, for 40$ they'd better put more effort in it. You can justify it lore-wise anyway you want, but female Au ra still look like a bunch of 17 year girls at a Mean Girls halloween party.

a lot more may be going into this than you realize.

Big whoop, it's their job. It's not like I'm paying SE every month for them to do exactly that...

[Magis]

Visually, they don't. That's what I'm talking about but you keep bringing up lore like it's got anything to do with it. Mi'qote too are humans cat ears, yes. It's lazy and cheap, we had them and Padjal already, for 40$ they'd better put more effort in it. You can justify it lore-wise anyway you want, but female Au ra still look like a bunch of 17 year girls at a Mean Girls halloween party.


Big whoop, it's their job. It's not like I'm paying SE every month for them to do exactly that...

He was pointing out that it isn't "recycled", that is the "big whoop". Recycled would be reusing models which is not the case.

actually yes. i'll buy the expansion for 20 when it costs 20.
the 40$ is just to rip off the hardcore that desperately need to cap their iLV asap.

look at the maps of the new heavensward Coerthas areas and you will learn that it's the same 2010 maps in new design.
but why release these redesigned areas with the major updates when you can charge for it?

well... somebody has to make up for 10 years FF15 development, so why not us.
STFU. and take my money.

If they are "in a new design" how are they recycled? That literally means they had to redesign and remake it. Even the new game engine means they had to put man-hours into buildings the content. Why did you by ARR then? Most of ARR content is just recycled 1.0 content by your measure!

[Phe]

Why did you by ARR then? Most of ARR content is just recycled 1.0 content by your measure!

I don't talk about the overall content, which I like.

I talk about space.
People have to pay 30$ once and 40$ again to get back the amount of space they had 5 years ago.

[Raist]

We have artworks and models, it's really not just an assumption. Lore and animations have nothing to do with sticking a bunch of dragon ears and a tail on a jailbait and calling it a day. Coming up with that look wasn't a 40$ effort, you can tell that much already.

Have you ever tried to render custom animations on a computer? Much less 3D models? A lot of time can go into designing and testing the models to try to safeguard against anomalies. You never know just what the impact of altering the wire frame of a character may have on additional layers that must be applied to it--especially when those existing assets may not have been designed with flexibility that would account for the new wire frame modifications. A slight alteration in the core shape of an object can cause some really strange glitches down the line when other things are made to interface/interact with it.

And then there is all the peripheral content as was already mentioned. Story, missions, voice acting, new motion capturing.... a lot more may be going into this than you realize.