Stop FFXIV Gender Inequality!

[sarehptar]

The thing is, we all know SE is doesn't like to put in time to design two totally different models for male and females on the same set.

Except that they do it all the time to give male-type outfits to females. Sailor suit, best man gear, Setzer outfit... The "not wanting to design two models" argument literally boils down to "not wanting to design models for males."

I also don't think the other argument from a previous post that "too few males would use this gear to make it worth it" is valid either. Female Roes make up a very, very small percentage of the population, and yet Square "wasted" the resources to make them to make fans happy. If majority rule alone were used to decide every single thing in this game, we'd be missing a lot of things right now.

[kyuven]

Female Roes make up a very, very small percentage of the population, and yet Square "wasted" the resources to make them to make fans happy. If majority rule alone were used to decide every single thing in this game, we'd be missing a lot of things right now.

The presence of a choice of a gender of a race is different than the lack of a choice for an outfit for one gender.
To put it bluntly, there are more people that play female Roe or like the OPTION of playing as female Roe, than there are for being able to wear a wedding dress as a male.
The addition of female roe for 2.0 is also a bad example since the basic model already existed in 1.0: Her name's Merlwyb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvXSHLPB1aM
It was actually the EXclusion of female roe (and male miqo'te, and female highlander) that caused more issues in the playerbase.

[sarehptar]

The presence of a choice of a gender of a race is different than the lack of a choice for an outfit for one gender.
To put it bluntly, there are more people that play female Roe or like the OPTION of playing as female Roe, than there are for being able to wear a wedding dress as a male.
The addition of female roe for 2.0 is also a bad example since the basic model already existed in 1.0: Her name's Merlwyb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvXSHLPB1aM
It was actually the EXclusion of female roe (and male miqo'te, and female highlander) that caused more issues in the playerbase.

Um, sorry but have you made a total count? Did you run through every zone on every server of Eorzea 24/7 making a player poll to determine the exact number of males who would want to wear the wedding dress item if they could? Or are you making assumptions based on your own personal opinions of the number of males who would want to wear dresses? Until you get some real numbers, you really can't "put anything bluntly" about this situation at all.

Merlwyb's presence in 1.0 does not negate the fact that Square had to then utilize plenty of resources to create the various character customization options, all the gear, etc. for female Roegadyn when they were finally made playable. Bottom line: they spent resources on creating models that are relatively rarely used. There is literally no difference between that and creating glamour gear models for males even though they might be rarely used so that people who are passionate about having that "OPTION" can take it.

When something is unisex in this game it usually has the same exact appearance on both a male and female. Some things may get a minor modification from male to female like the Scylla robe for example, but it's not a totally different model at all. Until SE is willing to go the extra mile and create two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT models for male and females we're not going to see gender equality happen.

The problem with this is that from a design standpoint, every piece of gear on a different race is a completely different model. They all have to be significantly adjusted to match the size, contours, etc. of the race they are being worn by. They are "completely different" models every single time. If they already have to alter and modify the model for every race, there is very little reason they cannot alter their appearance slightly to match the gender as well. And they have already done this with many existing sets of gear in the game (the models for the Evenstar gear, for example, are "completely different"). And this argument doesn't work for things like Spring Dress, which we've already seen (albeit hilariously) on a male model. Basic fact is they don't want to give female-looking gear to males. And that is, in short, not fair.

[Songi]

Except that they do it all the time to give male-type outfits to females. Sailor suit, best man gear, Setzer outfit... The "not wanting to design two models" argument literally boils down to "not wanting to design models for males."

I guess I didn't word it correctly. Okay let me spell it out for you. When something is unisex in this game it usually has the same exact appearance on both a male and female. Some things may get a minor modification from male to female like the Scylla robe for example, but it's not a totally different model at all. Until SE is willing to go the extra mile and create two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT models for male and females we're not going to see gender equality happen.