Quote Originally Posted by Tex_Mex View Post
In his case, the 110 liberator will be a massive upgrade for him. Sure the stats on it are garbage (all that skill speed, ugh) but it is by far the best (and easiest to obtain) weapon available to more casual players. The Diamond Spear and HA spear require Extreme Primal and SCoB Completion. Those 2 are normally not done by more casual players. The best weapon available for casual players is the Longinus, but the time commitment required to get that weapon is so high that the Liberator should be his weapon till he gets there.
Shiva is not difficult though.