The Unspoken Rudeness

[Kallera]

What sick deeds in our productive gaming society! Clearly they need to be removed or sequestered into a new data center(located in Antarctica, so that they may work on their poor timing). And subject to reeducation via death penalties and gil confiscation until they are neatly sorted in the glorious future of the 8 person static! The only future for prosperity and lore revelations!


Until then, they can sit and languish about whatever happened to thancred in our new Praetorium reeducation mode! Until they know 7 people just like them in different roles.

If only we had started enforcing the need for this sooner, say, in level 10, by making mobs hard enough that the party, and only the party, is the solution, we would not have these louts at lvl 50, clearly getting by on cure and provoke! The nerve!

:takes off and wipes monocle:

[Mercutial]

It's certainly not just a problem with your server. I was in a Titan farm party that literally had THREE straight sol bonuses pop. The results were as expected. Of course, each of the three individuals admitted to their status at the beginning - but guess who were the first down?

[Sapphic]

Why I stopped doing or joining PF parties.

Add in the mercs selling clears where you also end up with players with a clear yet still no clue on what do in content.... FCoB merc sellers, the buyer does not even control the character for the bought clear which is clearly against the TOS.

Last one I did put up must have experience, got a SCH who after being kicked and I asked why he joined an experienced party replies with "I was hoping you would teach me".

But it's not only those who join, theres many who actually start farm parties with no clue on the fight also just hoping for 7 others to join to carry them.

[FranSeara]

Having 1 or 2 first time players in your group shouldn't/may not hurt you're chances of clears. This is how player(s) like myself ( watched the vids, knows the fight from vids and DF tries, has cleared other fights with members of the PF and is known as a OK player) get their first clear(s). Yeah...I know you may always have that one person who is ...not so good.

[Werhusky]

I see both points.... But I joined shiva farm with my friend for first clears (pre-bonus, the description didnt require prekill else wouldnt have joined) but only after I was sure to know the fight good enough. And we oneshot cleared with em (fascinatingly the most constant farmgroup for shiva I met and we were "noobs" :P ). Also had a WHM join T6 farms a while back.... WHM did his job perfect it was the multi kill xp ppl that wiped us so.......
But yes poping bonus in a farm makes you supicious but I'm not the kind for kicking due to not having the clear... if they derp I replace, but I leave decisions always to the grouplead. They should know HOW they want it.

[Sapphic]

Having 1 or 2 first time players in your group shouln't/may not hurt you're chances of clears. This is how player(s) like myself ( watched the vids, knows the fight from vids and DF tries, has cleared other fights with members of the PF and is know has a OK player) get their first clear(s). Yeah...I know you may always have that one person who is ...not so good.

If you PM the party creator and tell them your circumstances when they don't meet the requirements they are looking for and the party leader invites you, fine. If you don't meet the requirements and join anyways without saying anything then you're a selfish douche.

[FranSeara]

If you PM the party creator and tell them your circumstances when they don't meet the requirements they are looking for and the party leader invites you, fine. If you don't meet the requirements and join anyways without saying anything then you're a selfish douche.

True, its pays to be honest. You make more friends that way.

[Frozenbear]

If you absolutely need teamspeak to farm content that is cleared regularly in Duty Finder you probably have bigger problems than newbies sneaking into your runs.

Im confused, noone said anything about needing teamspeak to farm content. try reading the thread before you post?
Listen up newbies cause this is important. you don't HAVE to have ts to play OR to win. But it HELPS. Most of the people who have the clear you are working on, used voice chat of one type or another. the argument this person is trying to start is age-old and it is poison to newer players.
tl:dr if someone says Ts required, and you don't wanna use it, don't lie, don't be rude, don't troll. just walk on. ty.
"cleared regularly in Duty Finder" This is misleading. If you dont know ramuh ex and you que into a group of seven farmers, sure they may carry you through that fight, grats you got your clear. but if they aren't seven farmers, you just wasted an hour of everyone's time.

[Fated]

Did you take charge of the party and push it towards a win by being a leader figure? No? That's what I thought. Most random groups can achieve victory by simply having a leader figure carry the team. Even XxCloud StrifexX can surprise you if you take the initiative.

[raelgun]

If you absolutely need teamspeak to farm content that is cleared regularly in Duty Finder you probably have bigger problems than newbies sneaking into your runs.

Having voice chat increases accountability from players, the barriers on anonymity begins to break down and people have less easier time to say, its just a game!!.

Also criteria is criteria, I always find people trying to fight the criterias having the bigger problems due to it stemming from somewhere.