Let's have a round of applause for bringing grind parties front and center in FFXIV

[captainpicard]

I would be completely happy if they deleted leve's, and the stupid WoW quests ASAP.

Reintroducing Party grinding is the first thing they have done right since this game came out.

[Wolfie]

I would be completely happy if they deleted leve's, and the stupid WoW quests ASAP.

Reintroducing Party grinding is the first thing they have done right since this game came out.

And it's players like these that make me doubt this game will ever be more than the butt of every joke.

[Charismatic]

And it's players like these that make me doubt this game will ever be more than the butt of every joke.

Yep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MAwFIXfBGs

[Forerunner]

Yeah, oh wait, why can't people beat the Ogre? Because they learned all those great skills partying to 50? Myths dude. You only learn how to tank and heal by educating yourself or having a good leader.

In FFXI there are plenty of people who accuse other capped players of being bad players, and that's in a game where it's impossible to solo. So there's your evidence that you don't know what you're talking about.

I solo'd BLM on Qiqirns, Wamoura and Puddings. Think about all the Beastmasters, PUPs, Dragoons who had to solo because of people thinking they weren't worth a damn. Impossible to solo, shows YOU don't know what you're talking about.

"You only learn to tank and heal by educating yourself"

And getting 30k sp for killing two mobs really does that for you. Think before you post.

[DeadRiser]

I love grinding. Hated leves. Hated that people quit them just to do the same stupid leves again.

With grinding, people are actually learning their jobs and what they are meant to do. With leves, meh not so much. Mobs were too easy. It's great now. Glad they are increasing the sp a little on behests but hopefully on regular mobs too.

Did I mention I love grinding?

[Seikninkuru]

And it's players like these that make me doubt this game will ever be more than the butt of every joke.

Pretty much! What do you expect when people have lived under the same fecal covered rock since 2003 though?

[Xianghua]

/sigh

a lot of you have the wrong idea of what quest are suppose to be about. Its not suppose to be about SP or Rewards.
Quest are put into games to give you a better understanding to the people and background of the world. they need Depth and meaning into doing them. Not run here and back for 30k sp. these are the type of quest the game needs, it brings much needed lore and depth into the world we lack so much of.

Something must be wrong with me and my idea's of what games should be like. I've always played games to enjoy the lore and story of the worlds. Not just to beat it as fast as i could. No game should be about getting max level and beating it as fast as you can.

[Sypherblade]

/sigh

a lot of you have the wrong idea of what quest are suppose to be about. Its not suppose to be about SP or Rewards.
Quest are put into games to give you a better understanding to the people and background of the world. they need Depth and meaning into doing them. Not run here and back for 30k sp. these are the type of quest the game needs, it brings much needed lore and depth into the world we lack so much of.

Something must be wrong with me and my idea's of what games should be like. I've always played games to enjoy the lore and story of the worlds. Not just to beat it as fast as i could. No game should be about getting max level and beating it as fast as you can.

I agree! and for people who just mad rush to cap level THEN want content...im confused..... imagine buying any rpg console game, going home, "kill boars" in the forest till you hit cap.....THEN actually play the game....where's the fun in that?

[Forerunner]

I agree! and for people who just mad rush to cap level THEN want content...im confused..... imagine buying any rpg console game, going home, "kill boars" in the forest till you hit cap.....THEN actually play the game....where's the fun in that?

That may have been the case in XI, but at the moment, there's a mission every few levels, you dont need to rush to cap then do em, they are quite easily managable at the level you unlock with one or two buddies, LS mates, or even just maybe /sh'ing?

Don't need to be capped in this game to enjoy a story or two.

[Ichi]

And it's players like these that make me doubt this game will ever be more than the butt of every joke.

jokes only funny to you.