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  1. #31
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    While I agree killing it is killing it. I disagree you shouldn't strive to do it better, more efficiently. My first T12 kill was with 5 Bennu, now its with 3. As you know 5 Bennu takes extremely good players to pull off. 3-4 Bennu is PUG material. Huge difference in difficulty.

    T13 - Megaflare is your biggest MP sink, skipping them really helps healers. 4 Flattens really line up well with CDs.

    Adds phase is fixed so nothing to report there.

    Last phase the goal is 4 Ahk, I'm not sure 3 is possible, but 3 would ideal and allow PLD to stay in Sword oath for the entire phase. PLDs already sword oath during the first and second Ahk. Moving PLD HG up to the third would be ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    While I agree killing it is killing it. I disagree you shouldn't strive to do it better, more efficiently. My first T12 kill was with 5 Bennu, now its with 3. As you know 5 Bennu takes extremely good players to pull off. 3-4 Bennu is PUG material. Huge difference in difficulty.
    One should strive indeed, earlier this week i did 230 in shield oath constantly on 13 and did 300+something on t12(SwO obviously). And yes indeed 3 bennus make the 3rd phase piss-easy. However i view this as fluff, something to do out of boredom, not something everyone should absolutely do otherwise they're bad. As long as youve killed it, youre set, you wanna do more? Sure thing, but dont impose that this is how things should be for everyone.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Making a fight shorter just makes it shorter, not easier.
    You're so hell bent on being right and justifying your hp threshold you completely missed his point. I have never done T13 so I don't claim to have experience there but every fight that is shorter is easier.

    Let's do a classic example of Garuda HM. I spammed this Trial to death yesterday and there was a point that DPS needed to be. If dps wasn't up to par then the group almost wiped. 20-25% Garuda spawns sisters... Everyone ignores sister right? But if DPS doesn't burn Garuda down before they teleport then Garuda wipes everyone but tanks.

    So Morale to the story - faster dps allows you to skip mechanics, ignore mechanics... thus making the fight easier...
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Garuda HM

    There is no difference between 3rd and 4th flatten, the boss does not get buffed, its the same, thus the difficulty is the same.
    4 akh morns is possible with both tanks going full vit.
    Im not sure wheres the easier part.
    T12 tho, sure, 3 bennus makes the 3rd phase a snooze-fest, otherwise exactly the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    There is no difference between 3rd and 4th flatten, the boss does not get buffed, its the same, thus the difficulty is the same.
    4 akh morns is possible with both tanks going full vit.
    So you're saying it wouldn't make a difference to skip it. Doesn't matter about how much damage it does.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    While I agree killing it is killing it. I disagree you shouldn't strive to do it better, more efficiently. My first T12 kill was with 5 Bennu, now its with 3. As you know 5 Bennu takes extremely good players to pull off. 3-4 Bennu is PUG material. Huge difference in difficulty.

    T13 - Megaflare is your biggest MP sink, skipping them really helps healers. 4 Flattens really line up well with CDs.

    Adds phase is fixed so nothing to report there.

    Last phase the goal is 4 Ahk, I'm not sure 3 is possible, but 3 would ideal and allow PLD to stay in Sword oath for the entire phase. PLDs already sword oath during the first and second Ahk. Moving PLD HG up to the third would be ideal.
    3 Akh is possible i saw collision do it and im sure lucrezia did it too since ther kill even faster
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  7. #37
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    not that im tanking fcob or anything but fights are made easier by skipping phases as stated, that's a fact,

    the reason being is that its just less time for people to make mistakes, and I don't care how good you are you can still screw up and cause a wipe.

    so even if you have the mechanics down and everything by shortening the duration of the encounter you make it easier on everyone.

    the technical difficulty may be the same but not the human error aspect of lengthening it...
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    Last edited by chidarake; 02-17-2015 at 08:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gildarts View Post
    3 Akh is possible i saw collision do it and im sure lucrezia did it too since ther kill even faster
    Mind if i ask if anyone has seen Lucrezia 'do it'? To my knowledge their only recorded kills are on their youtube channel and the most recent was way back in November! The only other tidbits of info we get from them are parse results on their main Twitter page. Its my understanding that Lucrezia doesn't post videos as they like to keep their strategies low key.

    You can occasionally catch the odd member doing PVP on twitch from time to time but i've never seen any of them streaming raid content. Please post links if you know of some! Their PLD put up 438 DPS on T10 a few weeks back and i'd love to see his playstyle.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 02-17-2015 at 09:57 PM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Mind if i ask if anyone has seen Lucrezia 'do it'? To my knowledge their only recorded kills are on their youtube channel and the most recent was way back in November! The only other tidbits of info we get from them are parse results on their main Twitter page. Its my understanding that Lucrezia doesn't post videos as they like to keep their strategies low key.

    You can occasionally catch the odd member doing PVP on twitch from time to time but i've never seen any of them streaming raid content. Please post links if you know of some! Their PLD put up 438 DPS on T10 a few weeks back and i'd love to see his playstyle.

    don't have video for them but collision have video up for it, and again Lucrezia did the kill faster than them

    they had few broadcasts for t10-t12 but they toke it down so no clue if there is any more because i haven't seen any
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    Last edited by Gildarts; 02-18-2015 at 12:42 AM.

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    ther recent t10 kill, only Warrior is from main groups others i don't know

    http://lalafell.xxxblog.jp/archives/43412133.html
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