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    I main a War, with defiance I heard 10,500 is the optimum HP we can aim for and further adding makes no sense. I have the same problem, I have been working on the left gear getting all the poetics Gear then work on the right getting either slaying of fending

    i am heavily thinking of getting slaying for my accessories and push my STR.

    1) pushing STR means more damage mitigation and block/parry correct?
    2) Would you recommend all slaying on the right?
    3) I don't quite understand what does "Only secondary stats have breaking points?" means
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by chancho3 View Post
    1) pushing STR means more damage mitigation and block/parry correct?
    Only Paladins have Block, but yes STR raises how much damage you mitigate with Parry.

    3) I don't quite understand what does "Only secondary stats have breaking points?" means
    Every point of a primary stat gives you the same amount of return. Secondary stats basically have levels where they become less effective. Stacking accuracy over the cap, for example, is just wasted points.
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    Every point of a primary stat gives you the same amount of return. Secondary stats basically have levels where they become less effective. Stacking accuracy over the cap, for example, is just wasted points.
    How would I determine what is the primary stat?Ive allocated all my stat Points to VIT does that make it a primary?Thank you
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    Atrox Leo
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    On the way to FcoB and close to bis-gear i would say go with 30 vit. One single reason, you can swap out fending for slaying accs at an earlier stage and gain more interesting secondary stats instead of the fantastic fending stat parry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrox View Post
    On the way to FcoB and close to bis-gear i would say go with 30 vit. One single reason, you can swap out fending for slaying accs at an earlier stage and gain more interesting secondary stats instead of the fantastic fending stat parry.

    That's backwards thinking. VIT accessories have greater stat points then STR. You want to swap to 30/30 str first then then start changing accessories.

    i130 VIT gives 27 stat points
    i130 STR gives 23 stat points

    If you swap out 1 Fending for a slaying you lost 27 VIT, gain 23 STR vs a true 30/30 swap.
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    Last edited by SirTaint; 02-17-2015 at 01:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancho3 View Post
    How would I determine what is the primary stat?Ive allocated all my stat Points to VIT does that make it a primary?Thank you
    Str and vit are both primary stats. Skill speed, accuracy, parry, crit, det are secondary.
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    While I agree killing it is killing it. I disagree you shouldn't strive to do it better, more efficiently. My first T12 kill was with 5 Bennu, now its with 3. As you know 5 Bennu takes extremely good players to pull off. 3-4 Bennu is PUG material. Huge difference in difficulty.

    T13 - Megaflare is your biggest MP sink, skipping them really helps healers. 4 Flattens really line up well with CDs.

    Adds phase is fixed so nothing to report there.

    Last phase the goal is 4 Ahk, I'm not sure 3 is possible, but 3 would ideal and allow PLD to stay in Sword oath for the entire phase. PLDs already sword oath during the first and second Ahk. Moving PLD HG up to the third would be ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    While I agree killing it is killing it. I disagree you shouldn't strive to do it better, more efficiently. My first T12 kill was with 5 Bennu, now its with 3. As you know 5 Bennu takes extremely good players to pull off. 3-4 Bennu is PUG material. Huge difference in difficulty.
    One should strive indeed, earlier this week i did 230 in shield oath constantly on 13 and did 300+something on t12(SwO obviously). And yes indeed 3 bennus make the 3rd phase piss-easy. However i view this as fluff, something to do out of boredom, not something everyone should absolutely do otherwise they're bad. As long as youve killed it, youre set, you wanna do more? Sure thing, but dont impose that this is how things should be for everyone.
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    Rozaria Eleanor
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    While I agree killing it is killing it. I disagree you shouldn't strive to do it better, more efficiently. My first T12 kill was with 5 Bennu, now its with 3. As you know 5 Bennu takes extremely good players to pull off. 3-4 Bennu is PUG material. Huge difference in difficulty.

    T13 - Megaflare is your biggest MP sink, skipping them really helps healers. 4 Flattens really line up well with CDs.

    Adds phase is fixed so nothing to report there.

    Last phase the goal is 4 Ahk, I'm not sure 3 is possible, but 3 would ideal and allow PLD to stay in Sword oath for the entire phase. PLDs already sword oath during the first and second Ahk. Moving PLD HG up to the third would be ideal.
    3 Akh is possible i saw collision do it and im sure lucrezia did it too since ther kill even faster
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    Butta Stackz
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    Midgardsormr
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gildarts View Post
    3 Akh is possible i saw collision do it and im sure lucrezia did it too since ther kill even faster
    Mind if i ask if anyone has seen Lucrezia 'do it'? To my knowledge their only recorded kills are on their youtube channel and the most recent was way back in November! The only other tidbits of info we get from them are parse results on their main Twitter page. Its my understanding that Lucrezia doesn't post videos as they like to keep their strategies low key.

    You can occasionally catch the odd member doing PVP on twitch from time to time but i've never seen any of them streaming raid content. Please post links if you know of some! Their PLD put up 438 DPS on T10 a few weeks back and i'd love to see his playstyle.
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 02-17-2015 at 09:57 PM.

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