[serious suggestion]Remove the ability to queue for frontline in a party, or...

[Alx789]

I see that premakers are very proud of their ability to slice with ease hordes of random meat into small pieces )
But i think that premade and random battles must be separated due to very unequal starting conditions. Premade parties makes PvP not interesting for nonhardcore players. I see it in my community - it's small enough to make full PvP party from players from the same GC and most players said that it is not interesting to play against preamdes (their skills and gear can't change situation and means nothing) and dropped PvPing at all.
Another problem - communication. Console gamers in random party has no time to chat, it's very slow with gamepad. So, they have unequal conditions with PC players. I think that all players must have more equal chances to win and benefits of usage of off-game tools (PS voice chat, TS) should be minimized.

[Atreus]

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There's no glory in taking down disorganized randoms. The fun was all in running into other premades.

[Kuwagami]

If I wasn't so sad about PvP I would take you up. No one fears forever 3rd maelstrom. I have noticed an improvement on your side the last month. But I also have seen alot of flames queing as you guys.

has Aether changed that much since I left ? (2.4)

Back then it was Maelstrom forever 1st until we meet that adders premade and then we would be 2nd some times, sometimes we would win.

On Chaos datacenter though it's really fun.

Maelstrom often pushes good, sometimes not, etc... and when one GC has 80 points.... both adders and flames tag team Maelstrom. Even when we aren't winning.

It has come down to a point where playing PvP is just a chore to get weekly reward...

[Houston009]

has Aether changed that much since I left ? (2.4)

Back then it was Maelstrom forever 1st until we meet that adders premade and then we would be 2nd some times, sometimes we would win.

I don't recall Maelstrom ever being first majority of the time. Yes, they use to win a good chunk previously rather than <10% win rate now (LOL). It's has always been Flames & Adder winning the most, and Storm sneaking in those elusive victories.

[Atreus]

I'm with Straigus. Maelstrom's always been the underdog on Aether unless there's this pocket of good Storm players playing only in the mornings.

[Kuwagami]

I'm with Straigus. Maelstrom's always been the underdog on Aether unless there's this pocket of good Storm players playing only in the mornings.

your morning is my prime time >_> which may explain my 20/20 1st places before I move datacenters (now stats are a bit more... diverse : 29/40/21)

Thing is, there was a really good european Maelstrom group but I don't know how they're doing now.

[Kuwagami]

I pay the same money for subscription and want to have the same game conditions. What's wrong?

I don't want to sound like a jerk, really, but PS3, PS4 and PC gaming will never have the same game conditions. ever. Not on MMO gaming anyway

[DracotheDragon]

I don't want to sound like a jerk, really, but PS3, PS4 and PC gaming will never have the same game conditions.

PS3? maybe due to the lower specs of the system and the fact most do not render on it do bring out a issue when it comes to playing on them.

PS4 (with a keyboard and mouse or just keyboard and controller) is on equal playing field as PC, until you start getting to the people with ultra specific keyboards and mice that have like 30 macro buttons so everything they do is attacked to a macro and the keyboard itself is extremely sensitive (i'm talking one of those £400 keyboards and £250 mice) PC will have the advantage but at that point it is down to those who specifically do nothing but MMO's who have the equipment to be as efficient as possible.
If the game was twitch played (like LOL or DOTA2) Ps4 wouldn't have a chance with pc but due to the 2.5 GCD (1.9 GCD for even the fastest players) It keeps PS4 and PC similar.

That said, even randoms made up of say PC pugs, wouldn't win against PS3 premades or PS4 premades this is where the issue of my original post comes in,
Pre-mades are causing a major imballance to any player.

[Alx789]

No. Ps4 keyboard lags and loses chars. And has some other problems. I have 2 wireless keyboadrs from different producers and both has the same problems. Ps4+kbd and mouse != PC.

[Kuwagami]

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vocal plays an important part, and unless you can gather a team with only PS4 players, you'll be at a disadvantage vs full PC team. That's talking about premade vs premade, as premade will usually own hard PUGs anyway.

of course PS4 players can have a computer or a phone with TS, but not all have.