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  1. #11
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    TheCurls's Avatar
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    Aija Dal
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    Summoner Lv 90
    As stats are now, it doesn't matter what stats the new jobs use. It all ends up the same anyway.

    DRK will use Vit/Str just because they like making 1 set to fit all tanks and healers. Same reason why AST will use Mind/Pie
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  2. #12
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    Riella Rhelianah
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    Ultros
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It's probably going to be Dex, so that both Bard and Machinist can share "Aiming" gears.
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  3. #13
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    I'm not to sure how many mage/healer have piety mods over mind or int. However bard can also make use of boosts to piety as more MP means ballads will last longer. I just don't know if there are times where bards could use +piety over +dex or +crit.
    I'd take piety over skill speed any day as a bard.
    At least piety plays into an actual class function rather than potentially hindering 2 others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iveriad View Post
    It's probably going to be Dex, so that both Bard and Machinist can share "Aiming" gears.
    Possible, but none of the DPS classes share armor sets past 110.
    Machinist will use DEX. Just like when NIN was coming and I said "SE will find a way to make it so NIN uses DEX"...I was right about that.
    DEX for gun uses has been a staple for almost as long as it has been for dagger wielders. Being super smart doesn't make you shoot straighter. A steady hand does.
    Even if they revamp stats (which I doubt unless they add something to VIT, MND, PIE, and INT to match the fact that DEX and STR both do more than one thing), the Machinist skills will still do the equivalent of drawing on DEX for damage.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 02-17-2015 at 05:09 PM.

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    Alinda Thorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Yoshi already mentioned stats being possibly revamped in 3.0.
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  5. #15
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    Video Games
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    I'm not to sure how many mage/healer have piety mods over mind or int. However bard can also make use of boosts to piety as more MP means ballads will last longer. I just don't know if there are times where bards could use +piety over +dex or +crit.
    No bard would ever willingly go piety.
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  6. #16
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atmora View Post
    No bard would ever willingly go piety.
    If I had to choose between piety and skill speed, though, i'd take piety.
    unfortunately it's not an option barring melding gear. But in those cases, ya do the crit, det, or acc
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  7. #17
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    Final Spark
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    Bard Lv 90
    There's a reason why the platinum accessories are called Ranging @_@~
    maybe?
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  8. #18
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    This is why SE should have kept the AGI (Agility) stat from FFXI. In FFXIV, this would allow two-handed melee DPS to use STR, single-hand and dual wield melee DPS to use DEX, and ranged non-caster DPS to use AGI.
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  10. #19
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotemon View Post
    I'm not to sure how many mage/healer have piety mods over mind or int. However bard can also make use of boosts to piety as more MP means ballads will last longer. I just don't know if there are times where bards could use +piety over +dex or +crit.
    Hahaha! Back in the day, I went all PIE for my BRD before I understood the system (I come from FFXI since 2005). When the community busted my balls for not doing DEX, I felt shameful. I had dropped WHM to main BRD, and even got Novus weapon after still meddling with PIE lol...

    Now, I went back to my roots as WHM, forcing myself to part ways with my BRD's progress since I suck at dps'ing anyway.
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    Deifact Kinspawn
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    It'd be nice for stats to be revamped so that there's actually an intellectual decision to be made between them. At the moment most classes have a couple of stats to focus on which makes gearing up rather boring. For example VIT could improve SCH shield strength, INT could improve NIN ninjitsu damage, Charisma could be added to boost BRD song effects etc. etc.
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