Gold Saucer outfits, gender locked?

[Ippiki]

Krr, you're misinterpreting.

A man wearing a Setzer's costume is fine, because a large part of what the costume represents is closely entwined with the subtleties of his sexuality, and the actions/motives he has related to that.

A catgirl or any female wearing the same outfit would come off as a mockery of the same due to the same sexuality not being present. I've posted before, if there's a female equivalent to Setzer in the FF universe, her outfit would suffice, but to the devs, that's not the case. There's no misogyny here, if females get a classy gambler outfit, sweet, but at the cost of cheapening an established character? No thanks.

[Titor]

A man wearing a Setzer's costume is fine, because a large part of what the costume represents is closely entwined with the subtleties of his sexuality, and the actions/motives he has related to that.

I am a roleplayer. My character is a nerdy, scrawny scientist who is borderline asexual. He loves his technology more than anything. Should I not be allowed to wear my costume since my male character differs heavily from Setzer's ideology?

Perhaps we should start having personality screenings to see what gear we should and should not be allowed to wear based on our character's personality.


Ridiculous, yes? So... why could a female character not wear it?

[Ippiki]

Yuna is a singer in X-2, does that count enough for "entertainment industry"?

That's actually a pretty good outfit, weird how the devs didn't choose that for females, but oh well.

I am a roleplayer.

That's not an immediately visually apparent, let alone binary fact. Your character is the same gender as Setzer, therefore capable of possessing the same sexuality as him(from reading your post, that's a pretty big stretch, but regardless), and the outfit, and character represented, is not disrespected.

Give females their own thing instead of making a very masculine character/outfit into a unisex thing, is my main point. If you want bunny outfits on males, that's your own taste, but wanting something to be copy-pasted just to fit your choices is a little much.

[Titor]

That's not an immediately visually apparent

[Ippiki]

What's your image supposed to represent?
Also, why would an asexual, technology-loving scientist not wear a shirt? You can argue inside a self-created standard all you want, but not everyone's gonna go along with it.

[Iveriad]

Give females their own thing instead of making a very masculine character/outfit into a unisex thing, is my main point. If you want bunny outfits on males, that's your own taste, but wanting something to be copy-pasted just to fit your choices is a little much.

Isn't that the point of vanity items and glamours?

[Ippiki]

Isn't that the point of vanity items and glamours?

No, because you still can't glamour gender-locked gear or cross-class/job gear. If SE wanted you to do WHATEVER you wanted with glamour, this thread wouldn't exist.

[Iveriad]

No, because you still can't glamour gender-locked gear or cross-class/job gear. If SE wanted you to do WHATEVER you wanted with glamour, this thread wouldn't exist.

Female characters can use Bestman suit.
I don't see why they can't do it with Setzer outfit.

[Teia]

Your character is the same gender as Setzer, therefore capable of possessing the same sexuality as him

That's a rather disrespectful and extremely narrow-minded view of gender roles. Everyone is "capable" of possessing the same sort of "sexuality" as Setzer, whether male or female. Hell, my character looks downright masculine and even has the best approximation of a longcoat look I could get. She's certainly much closer to the Setzer style of "sexuality" than the nerdy and borderline asexual character posted in here. There isn't one style of "sexuality" for men or women to have. Hell, Faris from FF5 has a very similar style to Setzer, and there are many bishounen FF characters whose appeal relies on traditionally "feminine" traits.

tl;dr Your perspective is willfully narrow-minded, flat-up disrespectful to others, and comes across as very "stop liking what I don't like." You should work on improving that.

[Nalien]

Give females their own thing instead of making a very masculine character/outfit into a unisex thing, is my main point.

Dude, Setzer is just a gender-bent Faris...



Funny how we had a very similar version of his outfit worn by Faris two years before Setzer saw release and it was a "unisex" thing. Sad how Square seems to have regressed since 1992... I'm not against bunny girl outfits existing, but that it is "the" female option is absurd. More so when the male outfit is perfectly serviceable by a women based on this very franchise over two decades ago... Then there's the minor annoyance that, based on all previews for Gold Saucer, male characters get a unique outfit out of this while female characters get to dress up as employs because... Sex appeal? Seriously, did I just miss all the NPCs in the previews wearing the Setzer outfit? I certainly saw a lot of bunny girl NPCs... Would be nice if female characters at least had a comparable unique reward option, though it would be far easier to just remove the gender lock of Setzers outfit given how inane that lock is anyway.

Ideally, like plenty have said throughout this thread, this should be like the XIII event rewards. It isn't though, and the fact that it isn't despite how many months Gold Saucer has been pushed back from is kind of sadly hilarious. The easiest solution is to just let women wear the unique Setzer outfit and I don't see how that would negatively impact anyone at all...