Dear Ninjas

[Anemone_Valesti]

"I can't be bothered to play well" does not deserve respect. Neither does "I play how I want, regardless of how detrimental it is to my fellow party members". And that is the main issue here, especially because a pretty big part of the playerbase seems to share this attitude and does not want to hear advice or use actual strategies for boss fights. They are content with and feel entitled to be a nuisance to the other players around them.

Also, why do we, as players who do their job and put an effort into clearing the duty, need to back down from using the duty finder?

" If you find yourself unable to deal with this and see yourself coming to the forums for the sole reason of masking negativity behind trying to advise others on how to play (Not respecting each others Playstyle) " Then Just don't Duty find. -Hohenheim (Me)

You somehow magically missed the beginning of that Paragraph Bro >.>. Still Im going to address your Point. Before you make decisions, I assume that you weight your options before doing so. You already recognize that certain gaming behaviour cause you to get Annoyed/Mad/Raggafragga. Duty Finder is by 1 of a few methods of which you can go about achieving what you're out to Achieve. Duty Finder cannot achieve anything that Forming a Static or Using the Party Finder couldn't (Unless ur simply going for Commendations which just hit my mind just now). With the last two, you yourself can control more of the factors that you wouldnt be able to in duty finder. Get individuals that Hey...want to push it to the Max just like you or even Take it easy just like the others. Get Specific classes that accommodate each other well, as well as a chance to converse with individuals before partaking in the content to get a grasp of if they know what they're doing or not. Yes its not perfect methods, but again you possess more control over the factors than with Duty finder.

Point being, you think before doing the action. You know yourself that everyone in this whole game doesn't hold the same ideas of good game play as you. Duty Finder Pulls from all servers, meaning the chances increases greatly that you encounter someone who does something you particularly as an individual doesn't like. YOU STILL CHOOSE TO USE DUTY FINDER, Rolling the Dice despite understanding that "This" Is what you can get ? You are free to do whatever the hell you want with the Risk getting wrecked, but you have no one to Blame but yourself, and your aggression/Negativity should not be directed towards any group just because you took the risk.

You get annoyed with Certain play and expect "Randoms" to play a certain way BUT You Still use Duty Finder. I can understand if this was the ONLY Viable Method...but it's NOT! Jesus Christ Man What sense does doing this Make!? I Honestly want to know lol

[Ultimatecalibur]

However, SE apparently does not consider Bard TP song to be important or Goad, apparently, or they'd slap in a UI to monitor the party's TP. So o9nly the party can determine how important it is. Therefore, when on NIN, if you do not ask me for Goad directly, I won't even use it. If no one asks then the PROPER and CORRECT assumption is that you are doing fine and actually know how to manage your TP (managing TP is like managing mana - it CAN be done, but no one bothers to try because they like to use Bards and NINs like crutches).

The ability to see TP is actually one of the most requested features that the developers are working on implementing, and Tank and Spank fights like Five-headed Dragon will cause Paladin MTs to run out of TP if the fight drags out for longer than 3 minutes 45 seconds unless the RNG favors them with Shield Swipe procs (and those will only extend TP by 2.5 seconds per proc).

[Faelandaea]

Yeah I can see the difference playing in US server and Japan server. The Ninjas over there give it to the tanks (if the other DPS is BLM) without you have to even ask for it. They say hello nice to meet you at the beginning of each dungeons, and pretty much aware of what their roles are (which is NOT about "I am the King of the Universe - it's all about me - I am the best - me, me, me, me, I want, want, want, everyone else can you pass lot please). Most run are pretty smooth, unless you have first timer, and if that you only need to tell them once. Granted this is not 100% all of them are perfect master race, but in general I met a higher rate of competent players in Japan servers VS US servers.

Well I don't play on either of those. I play on Eu servers. US servers are . . . well I won;t start a flame war here but you can guess how I feel there. Japan servers . . . OH how I WISH I could play there. I have a lot of Japanese friends, and I can even speak Japanese enough to hold a basic conversation, and I am still learning. But I cannot read Kanji, so it would be too hard for me to play on one of those servers.

I would have no problem tossing a buff to a tank if I know when to do it. The skill has a bit of a cool down to it, so it is wisest to wait until it is needed before injecting them with TP. It's the same concept as a healer spamming you with Lustrate when you are full health, then you take a HUGE hit and they can;t cast Lustrate because Aether is on CD. Fortunately, most tanks on my server have macros they click when they get low on TP. The most common is along the lines of "I'm low on TP. Can I get a Bard Song/Ninja Buff to compensate please?" Not worded like that, but the basic structure is there. And I appreciate macros that communicate.

As long as the team COMMUNICATES and talks to each other, I am all over that. And like you mentioned, teams on my server often start with at least a hello and some communication when we start. unfortunately, though, I also get plenty of the silent parties and, one VERY big challenge to an EU server are communication barriers. People are in such a huge rush to queue up that they will queue even into languages they have no clue how to speak. When I queue up, I make sure the only language checked is English . . . last night I ended up in a party where 3 of us started having a conversation while we ran the dungeon. The 4th guy started spamming the chat with the auto-translate "Please use the auto translate function", and there was no way we could tell him that we weren't talking to him or relaying instructions, but just having a friendly conversation in general. If I ever get to a point in my Japanese that I can actually read Kanji, I definitely plan to move to a JP server, because universal communication is a must on any team.

Annnnd i got way off topic there, but yeah back ON topic . . . ALL classes need to do their jobs and help out where they can. I do wish this game had more diversity in skill trees though. The way this game is designed, everyone plays precisely the same way and absolutely has to use the exact same skills in the exact same order. This is the ONLY MMO that I have ever played that does this. Other MMO games - you can have your own skill set, rotation and such, make yourself unique but still get the job done. This is not enough to make me stop playing FFXIV, as I love the game and plan to continue playing, but threads like this are definitely a consequence of just such a limitation. People will monitor you in their parsers and such, and pull logs if they are static group commanders, and if you aren't following the published rotations precisely, you WILL get kicked from the team. That's expected. And if you slip up and not follow the published rotation and do not get kicked, you will end up causing threads like this. Your best bet is to try your best to get the rotation right and the timing right.

But in defense of the other side, if you need a buiff and it hasn't been cast on you, ask for it. If you are a WHM and need mana often, make a macro for the Bards (as a Bard I try to watch your mana, but sometimes a macro with a sound effect can definitely get my attention if I end up losing focus of the party bars to dodge mechanics, switch targets, kill adds, etc.) SCH - well you literally can;t run out of mana ever so no worries there. Tank and DPS - don;t be afraid to have a macro that asks for TP. Asking is part of communication, because, again, Bards or Nins may be distracted at the moment with mechanics, adds, etc. Depending on the fight, priorities sometimes are different Talk. Ask. And you shall certainly receive.

The ability to see TP is actually one of the most requested features that the developers are working on implementing, and Tank and Spank fights like Five-headed Dragon will cause Paladin MTs to run out of TP if the fight drags out for longer than 3 minutes 45 seconds unless the RNG favors them with Shield Swipe procs (and those will only extend TP by 2.5 seconds per proc).

I am frankly surprised it's not already in there. The coding is there - all they have to do is code in UI coordinates for a new set of bars duplicating the mana bars, but just tell the script to display TP instead of MP. If they ever do ad this, I think a LOT of these issues such as where this thread started from would actually disappear.

EDIT: Okay maybe not. After I posted I remembered that even though we can see MP, there's still a ton of "Dear Bard, use Ballad" threads. So more realistically, seeing TP bars will help those of us that actually care about seeing them XD There, fixed.

And why the hell do signatures always disappear when you edit a post? :P

[Krr]

Oh, is this one of those threads?

Dear Paladins:

75% of your skill bar is defensive cooldowns. Please start using them instead of telling healers to 'heal harder' during tankbuster attacks.

[RyuDragnier]

Oh, is this one of those threads?

Dear Paladins:

75% of your skill bar is defensive cooldowns. Please start using them instead of telling healers to 'heal harder' during tankbuster attacks.

It's not one of those threads, but I gave the post a Like, simply because I DO see a lot of tanks who need to understand this fact.

[Alistaire]

Dear Ninjas.
Please stop using Doton on single bosses. It is 240 potency if all ticks land, which they may not. Raiton is 360 potency, 50% better, please use that instead on single bosses.

Even aoe pulls katon > doton unless it's going to last an average of 7 of the 8 ticks on each mob. On average.

Doton could honestly use a buff.

[lvlagmarink]

This is another of absurd thread saying "others sux and i'm already doing my job" thread.. OP can just leave advice saying players should use ninjutsu instead of bragging and pointing players to be sux.. If i were to point out things, you peep who claim to be already doing yer job are practically doing the same thing by saying "i"m playing the way i want bruh" since you just claim to play it strictly to your "job description" which is pretty much doesnt span anything into using any specific action to use and claiming that you just dont want to play harder to cover up and babysit the weakness of other players..

[Stupiduglytaru]

Its quite simple lvlagmarink
dps role = maximum dps (unless either a mechanics require you to tone down or b tank cannot maintain aggro which will cause a wipe)
Dodge crap
Use debuffs and buffs if applicable on that dps role

Tank roles:
Dodge crap
Hold 100% hate
Maximum dps while maintaining hate
Correct use of cooldowns to take as least dmg as possible

healer roles:
Dodge crap
keep the party alive
(dps if possible)

If you happily play your role with minimum effort there's something wrong

[Kerrigen]

Believe it or not, most people are content with just pushing buttons at random.

[Faelandaea]

Believe it or not, most people are content with just pushing buttons at random.

Yeah that is something about FFXIV that bugs me compared to any other MMO I play. You can NOT customize your rotation. Every class has an assigned and VERY VERY specific rotation they have to use - even those of us who are main healers. We can NOT deviate from that rotation.

However, I choose to play FFXIV, so I choose to abide by those specified rotations and do my job as the developers have designed my job to do it. FFXIV still makes me happy even with these assigned and specified rotations - at least in FFXIV healers are still needed. I quit GW2 because they eliminated any need for healers completely by making EVERYONE a healer. ~facepalm~ So much for teamwork. Now it's a zerg game.

People here - not pointing the finger at Ninjas . . . . I am pointing it at EVERYONE, including myself - just needs to learn their jobs, learn the required rotations for their job (they are found on Google all over the place), and quit trying to be individuals with your class. You want to be an individual? Get some nice gear and glamour the hell out of it to look different, but you cannot be different in your rotations. It doesn't work that way in this game and all you will do is get people pissed at you and posting threads like this one.