Dual boxin breakng the rules? how players have an unfair advantage.

[syntaxlies]

Who cares, do what you want? *eyeroll*

opinions of any kind are welcome, trolls however, are not.

[Lienn]

I see no problem in dual boxing at all. If the player feels like playing with himself instead of with other players, its up to him to do so. In FFXI i played alot this way...the fail battle system allowed me to play up to 6 characters at same time with 1 macro per character...and i was able to fight, heal...even SC and MB...all in 1 macro per character.

Dual boxing here always was more complicated...active mode running slower, no AA, no /follow...but now that we are being gifted (...not!) with FFXI battle system, it might, once again, become a valid playing option. Once they add a /follow the potential dual boxing dissemination will start again...and will end like FFXI...who never heard there an "Damn! The WHM DC'ed" "No problem...i'll bring my mule here to PL us.". This is what will happen...i see no problem and no harm to game in anyway tho...IMO the player is free to play as many characters ass he wants...as soon as he's willing to pay the subscription fee of them all.

IMo PL, doual boxing and even dual boxinf for self PL'ing (lol) are all valid ways of playing. Some people just don't feel like interacting with random people sometimes...its up to each one to decide.

[syntaxlies]

I see no problem in dual boxing at all. If the player feels like playing with himself instead of with other players, its up to him to do so. In FFXI i played alot this way...the fail battle system allowed me to play up to 6 characters at same time with 1 macro per character...and i was able to fight, heal...even SC and MB...all in 1 macro per character.

Dual boxing here always was more complicated...active mode running slower, no AA, no /follow...but now that we are being gifted (...not!) with FFXI battle system, it might, once again, become a valid playing option. Once they add a /follow the potential dual boxing dissemination will start again...and will end like FFXI...who never heard there an "Damn! The WHM DC'ed" "No problem...i'll bring my mule here to PL us.". This is what will happen...i see no problem and no harm to game in anyway tho...IMO the player is free to play as many characters ass he wants...as soon as he's willing to pay the subscription fee of them all.

IMo PL, doual boxing and even dual boxinf for self PL'ing (lol) are all valid ways of playing. Some people just don't feel like interacting with random people sometimes...its up to each one to decide.

i agree, if a player wants to "play"2 accounts go ahead. Its the players who exploit the fact the 2nd accounts are free and they have them only to benefit from the rewards and what not. You can have a mule sit at the ath and he will get gil bonus off every leve you do.

[Lienn]

I know it would be hard to enforce, all i want to know is if this kind of behavior is cheating or not. You could manage 2 characters with some good macros if you really wanted to. As you can see the thevedis has 10 retainers in the wards as he mentioned. with he problems facing the wards as it is, i don't approve of this either.

Let me also take a sec to tell everyeon im not attacking everyone with mule accounts i nkow inventory is a b&^ch right now. My problem is the combination of all these abused practices. Mainly anima and rewards

Well, IMO its not cheating. Saying dual boxing is cheating is the same as saying storage mules are cheating...they're not. Cheating is using something that is not part of the game to take advantage...like buying gil from RMTs or botting. Multiple accounts is perfectly legal and actually a very valid idea in any MMO. If the player uses his mule to teleport or used leves to link on his, its all valid...any character can teleport someone else or link a leve with someone else...he being the owner of both accounts does not turn it into cheating.

EDIT: Well, this does is a problem...actually its the way RMTs work...one kill and all others receive gil from leve-sharing...but its still legal....that's why even tho everybody know they're RMT they're still there...until they get someone buying that gil they farmed they cannot do a thing because ToS does not deny this behavior. However, i do think they should restrict leve-sharing and behest reward to those that actually took part in the event...if you was at aetheryte all the time you actually receive nothing...if there were 10 monsters and you engaged only one you receive 10% of the full reward...

[Victor]

opinions of any kind are welcome, trolls however, are not.

Not my fault you don't like what you hear, go make pointless threads in another forum

[tymora]

Think this is a generally accepted practice on all MMOs, be it for extra healing during solo, storage muling...
Most people just turn a blind eye on this one.

[Nixius]

If the player feels like playing with himself

*stifles laugh* .. sorry =P

Back on topic! I can see why some people would be put out by this, but at the same time when the game goes PayToPlay if people want to pay then that is up to them. I'm sure SE won't come out and say anything about this because at the end of the day they are getting more money.

There is a somewhat morale question at the moment simply because people can do it for 'free', but once the game goes pay to play I'm sure it will die down and not be much of an issue. If you pay for it, then go for it I suppose.

[Lienn]

*stifles laugh* .. sorry =P

Back on topic! I can see why some people would be put out by this, but at the same time when the game goes PayToPlay if people want to pay then that is up to them. I'm sure SE won't come out and say anything about this because at the end of the day they are getting more money.

There is a somewhat morale question at the moment simply because people can do it for 'free', but once the game goes pay to play I'm sure it will die down and not be much of an issue. If you pay for it, then go for it I suppose.

Well, yep...what can i say if its true...some people do prefer making party with their mules instead of other players...its fact. The harder it is to find a party the bigger the chance of this happening...and over time it just become an habit. ^^:

[Valmonte]

they already do its classic RMT behavior in this game. make a train, have them all have guildleve's, while you have the highest character in the train blow threw it. 6 Characters in a train. x 7 guildleve's each character, is 42 leves. lets say the highest payout is 2500 for a r10 run that's 105,000 Gil at r20 the payout is doubled/tripled netting you an easy 300,000+ per run its destroying the games economy.

[Alaltus]

Its not worth trying to control for SE like has been said they make money from it once the game goes p2p and just because 2 accounts are used from the same address it might not be the same people playing them. When my brother started playing xi as well i did some dual box pling with dunes parties. Mostly when a party couldnt get the needed setup to fight without it, i found dual boxing got a bit disorientating x.x