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  1. #21
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    Lilyarel, I've got ask. Is Hiruke one of your alts? The original post reads like something written by you. I've read quite a few of your threads and the following is definitely one of your catchphrases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    Honestly, I can't think of anything from 2.4 or 2.5 that I'd prefer to take a SMN to instead of a BLM.
    Also, the use of absurdly large numbers... I've seen that before, but I can't remember who used that.
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    Last edited by Brianmj; 02-14-2015 at 08:06 PM.

  2. #22
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    Lilyarel, I've got ask. Is Hiruke one of your alts? The thread reads like something written by you. I've read quite a few of your threads and the following is definitely one of your catchphrases.



    Also, the use of absurdly large numbers... I've seen that before, but I can't remember who used that.
    I can assure you that it is not.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyarel View Post
    I can assure you that it is not.
    Cool. The overt disdain of Summoner lingering throughout the original post kept me thinking of you.
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  4. #24
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    Pawah Mujuuk
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    umm am I the only one that thinks 3 new dungeons are doable by SMN?
    even the DPS check in Amdepor HM isn't quite bad I did have to use manadrain from time to time but it's not that suck. I think what people bitching the most is FCoB, which, I don't do.

    By the way I lost count how many smn ranting thread popping up I do hope sqen do something before the DPS board dominated with smn ranting thread
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    Last edited by Puwarh; 02-14-2015 at 10:17 PM.

    Not bad, huh?

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    Nexus Limitless
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    Archanist Solo is kind of fun when you have Chocobo & Carbuncle playing in the beginning, but SMN has very limited benefit in higher tier gameplay. Summons can be used to help absorb damage from some attacks at least, like Fireball from Tywin for example. They need to add more summons or have existing summons can upgrade to higher tiers.
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  6. #26
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brianmj View Post
    Spell speed affects Garuda

    I haven't had any problem with the new dungeons. The DPS checks in Andapor Keep aren't really hard for Summoner. During the Demon Wall phase just Bane dots onto the surrounding mobs, fester once, then start spamming Blizzard II. The final boss isn't really a problem - I usually leave Garuda/Ifrit on him and dps the adds down myself with ruin and energy drain. For Keeper of the Lake I ran into mana problems, but that was from raising a lot, and being raised.

    People, you have to start using Energy Drain. 2 or even 3 stacks if needed. Everything can't be Festered.
    The new dungeons are doable by the Summoner but while there doing all that the Black Mage can go into their Flare rotation and bursts mobs down far more easily and efficiently.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puwarh View Post
    umm am I the only one that thinks 3 new dungeons are doable by SMN?
    even the DPS check in Amdepor HM isn't quite bad I did have to use manadrain from time to time but it's not that suck. I think what people bitching the most is FCoB, which, I don't do.

    By the way I lost count how many smn ranting thread popping up I do hope sqen do something before the DPS board dominated with smn ranting thread
    I'm not having any issues.
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  8. #28
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I switched to blm main for my raid static. Already have the gear since blm shares with summoner, and I picked up a Shiva weapon for blm while I work on Stardust Rod towards a Lilith Rod. When I solo content I run as whm for faster queues.
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  10. #29
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    Quince Viville
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    The new dungeons are doable by the Summoner but while there doing all that the Black Mage can go into their Flare rotation and bursts mobs down far more easily and efficiently.
    BLM can out burst dps groups of mobs better than any class just not SMN. Its not a fair comparison, no class is ever gonna get there.
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    Last edited by QuinceTaru; 02-15-2015 at 01:48 AM.

  11. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    The new dungeons are doable by the Summoner but while there doing all that the Black Mage can go into their Flare rotation and bursts mobs down far more easily and efficiently.
    Is doable not enough? Does the job have to outdo BLM at anything/everything? Your words are "burst mobs down far more easily and efficiently." Since when does SMN compete with BLM in a dungeon? I always thought the goal was to kill the mob - however that's done is up to the player. The OP feels the new dungeons work against the job, but I haven't see anything like that (haven't done Wanderer's Palace as SMN yet). When the day arrives that SMNs can't complete a DPS check, then the job has a problem. Until that day, the job is fine.
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    Last edited by Brianmj; 02-15-2015 at 09:55 AM.

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