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  1. #11
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Edit - Nevermind, missread until I saw other posts.
    Yeah, I agree with all else, you sounded rude, your response
    was hostile and therefore, you got the boot...at least got to 2nd
    boss before they decided to give the boot to you...next time, learn to respond a bit nicer.

    But on the other hand, if he was harassing you that badly, still report him...
    his words were probably worse but he's more in the wrong than you because he acted out.

    TLDR; Can't we all just get along?
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 02-14-2015 at 01:41 PM.

  2. #12
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    DoubleD's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Double Dee
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    Typhon
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    Archer Lv 60
    Asking to pass is rude. What's wrong with queing with the class you want the gear for? If you want the gear for it, unless you specifically join a Greed farm party, then que for it with that class. So he gets to need his ninja stuff, and then greed the job of his choice too? What if other people in that group have a lvl 50 healer they want a chance to glamour too?
    The gear from EX-Roulette is 1000 seals or good desynth material.

    I will need / greed everything as well if it's 3 or 7 or 23 random people. (Unless it's grouping with friends) If someone does indeed ask to pass in a random DF group, I will pass, but I'd be stuck wondering why he/she didn't just que with that job.

    Pre-made / friends is a different story, but DF group asking to pass is selfish unless you offer to pass on any gear you can need.

    And btw it probably was a pre-made group.
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  3. #13
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    SecretCrowds's Avatar
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    Cerys Fairbairn
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 80
    As others have stated, it's not just how one asks. It's how one replies too.

    That ninja asked, "Hey, can you pass on all healer gear?", which is perfectly fine and not rude at all.

    However, you replied, "No, I'm not going to pass on anything." That reply makes you seem like a jerk. Are you refusing because you just don't want to accommodate his request and being a jerk or did you truly need the healer gear too?

    You could have replied much more politely like, "Sorry, I need healer gear too". If he was rude after that, then it was his fault.

    Sounds to me like in this situation, you were the first one to show hostility and hence you should take part of the blame too.
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  4. #14
    Player Melriss's Avatar
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    Almeida Mizarea
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    Omega
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    Archer Lv 90
    OP you should give a life story on why you aren't going to pass on loot in order to avoid any more hurt feelings in 'Duty Finder - No Bully Zone'. Though, I doubt you'll ever get the chance to since you should be banned forever for your disgusting act of hostility. How dare you!
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  5. #15
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    Mint Chocolate
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    lol @ people going into DF with expectations that random people are obligated to acquiesce to their demands. DF PUG parties are not greed parties and you can never expect to have any control over what other people decide to do or not do.

    Super LOL @ the seemingly oversensitive people who interpreted OP's statement as "rude" and "hostile". Like, the NIN setting expectations for randoms isn't "rude"? I'll bet that the NIN did not even say "please". That's not "rude", but a clear-cut "no" without any emotional BS thrown with it is?

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    Last edited by hours; 02-14-2015 at 02:05 PM.

  6. #16
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    Quince Viville
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 60
    With all the stuff you need GC seals for now, i think saying "No im not going to pass anything" is fine. Even if he doesnt wanna use the healing gear he can use the seals for all crafting lucis/all gathering lucis/zodiac weapons.
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  7. #17
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    Sileas Goode
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by SecretCrowds View Post
    That reply makes you seem like a jerk.
    No, it doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by SecretCrowds View Post
    Sounds to me like in this situation, you were the first one to show hostility and hence you should take part of the blame too.
    No, he should not.
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  8. #18
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    Cerys Fairbairn
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    No, it doesn't.



    No, he should not.
    To each his own. I won't ever fault someone for making a request, no matter what it is. I also have a right to deny or accept the request. However, when I deny a request, I do it politely.

    It is never rude to ask. I don't know why so many people are saying it is rude to ask. Then, if you have a request, what do you do? Keep quiet or force it on others?

    Anyway, try using the reply the OP used on others in real life. Say it face to face. See how others will react. How do I know? I am speaking from experience. That's why I say the OP was being rude. Because I did the exact thing many times in the past.

    Edit: Anyway, I am tired of arguing. If you think you are right, go ahead and continue with the way you reply to others. But don't whine if someone reacts negatively to you again. I'll just carry on treating others politely.
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    Last edited by SecretCrowds; 02-14-2015 at 02:48 PM.

  9. #19
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    Murah Jhida
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Contextually, a rando tank speaking forcefully like that is going to ping my radar as a bit of an egotistical jerk. Is it rude? A little. Will I be put off by them? A little. Does it justify a barrage of insults and a votekick? No, absolutely not.
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    Last edited by Krr; 02-14-2015 at 03:19 PM.
    video games are bad

  10. #20
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    Cara Verant
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    It's not rude to make a request.

    It's not rude to deny a request.

    It's rude to insult someone who makes or denies a request. And if the insults continue, it becomes harassment, which should never be tolerated.
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