Relic weapon - give it meaning

[Ashel]

I have been playing this game since 1.0. I did not like the relic quest in 1.0 at all, so I can't speak for the difficulty there. I like the idea of being able to get a relic (more accessible than in ffxi). I do however wish that there was more more reason to have one. I have been farming mine for quite some time. I am about to do the last dungeon phase for Excalibur and now it will be defunct in 3.0. I am sure that many people that spent the time getting it will agree that it is very time consuming to have it pretty much defunct with the new relics starting in 3.0. I understand the purpose of starting new weapons, but I do think that relics need more staying power. I don't understand how the tomes weapon can be more powerful, when it is easy to get. Is there anything that can be done to help this?

[Eye_Gore]

I am about to do the last dungeon phase for Excalibur and now it will be defunct in 3.0. I am sure that many people that spent the time getting it will agree that it is very time consuming to have it pretty much defunct with the new relics starting in 3.0.

Is that for sure? Or maybe your current relic will need to be a certain stage in order to progress it in 3.0?

[Gelesto]

Wasn't there a mention of perks for those that complete their relic?

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

I disagree, if you started relic in 2.0 then you had a good weapon every step of the way. The lvl 125 weapons shouldn't have needed nexus to complete and the quest should have been much more time consuming. So players starting the game between patch 2.4 and 2.5 could earn it. People had the 2.45 relics 2 days after patch, not cool.

Whats crappy is people that are turning lvl 50 now and have to grind 200-300 hours just to get i lvl 110, which isnt even that good in patch 2.5.

[Ashel]

I just keep hearing rumors that there will be new Relics. I don't know the specifics. I certainly would be amenable to using my weapon as one of the stages to get a new one. I am however thinking it might be like Mythics vs Relics in ffxi.

[Ashel]

Wasn't there a mention of perks for those that complete their relic?

I haven't heard this, but it sure would be nice.

[moudoka]

I'm utterly over the RNG aspect of Relic quests. I've run 13-14 snowcloaks and still can't get the stupid drop. RNG can burn in hell.

[Ashel]

I'm utterly over the RNG aspect of Relic quests. I've run 13-14 snowcloaks and still can't get the stupid drop. RNG can burn in hell.

I will be starting tonight with DarkHold. Let the RNG fun begin..

[Deathscythe343]

I have been playing this game since 1.0. I did not like the relic quest in 1.0 at all, so I can't speak for the difficulty there. I like the idea of being able to get a relic (more accessible than in ffxi). I do however wish that there was more more reason to have one. I have been farming mine for quite some time. I am about to do the last dungeon phase for Excalibur and now it will be defunct in 3.0. I am sure that many people that spent the time getting it will agree that it is very time consuming to have it pretty much defunct with the new relics starting in 3.0. I understand the purpose of starting new weapons, but I do think that relics need more staying power. I don't understand how the tomes weapon can be more powerful, when it is easy to get. Is there anything that can be done to help this?

The first thing, everything becomes useless at some point. It is just a fact of how MMOs are done. The new gear replaces the old.

The relic quest line does seem a bit much compared to what one would get from it. Players are required to put in a significant amount of work on an item that is a marginal upgrade from its predecessor. If the time/work part is going to be disproportional to the reward then players will take the "easy" way out and get the tome weapon.

Another thing that could be done is bring back the 1.0 stats to these weapons. There was a thread about this in this section. Perhaps something like this would make the relic weapons more appealing to the masses and thus make the tome weapons less of an option.

Yes, many players have chosen to take the out by getting the tome weapon. However, that is not really an option till well after that weapon has been surpassed by newer weapons. We didnt see huge numbers of i110 tome weapons until after the upgrade tokens were added to ST. Even more so when ST's loot lockout was removed. The same can be said for the poetic weapons.

Wasn't there a mention of perks for those that complete their relic?

I think that this was a player suggestion. Don't think it was ever anything that was officially being considered by SE.

[Stumpedify]

There was an official comment on the matter from Yoshi -- will have to go see if I can search up the source -- but he did mention that they wouldn't just throw away all people's work on the relic and that it will have some use in the expansion. Regardless of whether there is a whole new weapon or not, what we do know is that some 3.0 content will require the relics.