Once you start giving out the Carbontwines

[Verlyn]

It'd be a nice idea for future tiers, but it's way too late in this iteration of the game to make WOD gear upgrade able. I'd rather they just note the desire for more choice in gear/stats at the top and focus on the expansion.

[Mutemutt]

I would say that if you want gear comparable to endgame loot, do content with difficulty comparable to endgame content. I would rather have people encouraged to do higher end content than 2nd tier raids for top level gear. 1st place gets gold, 2nd gets silver, 3rd gets bronze. Same concept.

So I wouldn't mind if there was more options at the top, as long as the method to get them was equally as trying.

[Noahlimits]

I don't get why non raiders even care to have i130 gear since even coil doesn't require that much of an ilvl. I can understand maybe wanting to dye their gear.. but other then that.. why? I've had FCoB on farm for 10+ weeks and wouldn't even do it if not for a above average gear reward. I think the story is terrible so I'd have no reason to do it otherwise since it's not that hard.

[Kazumac]

I would say that if you want gear comparable to endgame loot, do content with difficulty comparable to endgame content. I would rather have people encouraged to do higher end content than 2nd tier raids for top level gear. 1st place gets gold, 2nd gets silver, 3rd gets bronze. Same concept.

So I wouldn't mind if there was more options at the top, as long as the method to get them was equally as trying.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I don't mind being Having a pre end game content ilvl and the most recent end game content then having the next ilvl improvement gained from doing that content. I feel it works out well that way as if I'm not doing FCOB why do I need 130 gear right now (which is why I won't farm hunts since I don't enjoy them).

But that isn't the current model. Which is raiders have access to it for a few months exclusively then it is available to the masses. If that is to continue, then I don't see an issue with making WoD or other relevant loot piñata upgrade able at the same time the next teir of ilvl is available to all. If they keep the existing system, then it is a great suggestion. If they change it then I'd ask for multiple alternatives at all tiers for more options for all. Right now there are BiS pieces that aren't ilvl 130 and that kinda feels wrong and I think the suggestion is to fix that in the context of the existing system. I see it as a short term suggestion that might not be hard to implement but does not directly counter your perspective.

Kinda like if you are already giving i130 to everyone already, why not increase hearing options as well. Not really addressing whether or not everyone should have an i130 option in the first place. That's just how I interpreted it. I also don't get upset when I see someone walking around with an i135 weapon that I don't have an option for... you know because it is just content I haven't done yet.

[Mutemutt]

*Snip*

You're right, I don't really have a problem with there being more gearing options so much as how one gets that gear. And yes, the current model doesn't match my preferences perfectly, I've accepted that. I guess you could say that my aversion to the idea is mostly because it builds on a system I don't really like very much. To be honest, I've got bigger problems with hunts being the avenue for top tier gear than I do with being able to upgrade gear.

So the idea gets a "I wouldn't throw a tantrum if it did happen, but would prefer a different option" from me.

[Kiroh]

I don't get why non raiders even care to have i130 gear since even coil doesn't require that much of an ilvl. I can understand maybe wanting to dye their gear.. but other then that.. why? I've had FCoB on farm for 10+ weeks and wouldn't even do it if not for a above average gear reward. I think the story is terrible so I'd have no reason to do it otherwise since it's not that hard.

For the same reason raiders want 130 gear, it's not mandatory to complete final coil either, but you still want it.

[Skeith-Adeline]

No thank you lol. If players wan't great gear, they should have to work for it. Yes, Poetics isn't hard but originally you had to upgrade through Coil before hunts abolished that.

120 is fine. The weekly lockout is not.

[Ophie-Mio]

For the same reason raiders want 130 gear, it's not mandatory to complete final coil either, but you still want it.

Because want that fat ilevel. If they cared about stats, their current gear would be a mix of poetics, WoD, and FCoB gear. I personally care more for stats than ilevel but to a PF, seeing someone advertise that they are i130 looks better than me saying that I'm 120. Most of the time, they'll want that person instead even though I may be far above their skill level.

[Kiroh]

Because want that fat ilevel. If they cared about stats, their current gear would be a mix of poetics, WoD, and FCoB gear. I personally care more for stats than ilevel but to a PF, seeing someone advertise that they are i130 looks better than me saying that I'm 120. Most of the time, they'll want that person instead even though I may be far above their skill level.

Yeah, but think of it this way. Assume all people are bad until proven otherwise, would you want a bad 120 or a bad 130?

[Ophie-Mio]

Yeah, but think of it this way. Assume all people are bad until proven otherwise, would you want a bad 120 or a bad 130?

Then it wouldn't matter which one you got since i130 and i120 look the same when dead on the floor. xD