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    Fynlar Eira
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    Also note, if you plan to put accuracy on your healer relic (not as absurd of an idea as you might think; the relic weapon is actually one of the best opportunities for healers to get accuracy on their primary gear rather than having to get it through food or melded accessories)

    The accuracy melds on WHM relic (and therefore, probably the SCH one too) is kinda messed up atm, due to the fact they added small amounts of innate accuracy to healer equipment past a certain level, relics included. For instance, Thyrus Novus has 9 accuracy already on it, and up to 35 more can be melded on it. You would think that you need 8-9 each of I/II/III/IV accuracy materia to get the max melds on accuracy. This isn't the case; it actually takes those 9 points into account when doing the split, so in reality you only need 2 tier I materia (which won't be 100% success melds), then 11 tier II, 11 tier III, and 11 tier IV. Essentially, the innate 9 accuracy points on the relic already take up what would have been your first 9 tier I melds.

    Not sure if this is a bug of some sort. It kinda feels like it is, but then again you'd think this is something that would have been fixed by now if it was considered such.
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    Faelandaea Dravin
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    That accuracy thing is definitely something to think about. I was focusing on Spell Speed and Determination because I do not do anything offensive hardly at all, and really want potency and speed in my healing. Fortunately, if I read everything right, we can respec later on (even after we've moved on to the other stages). That bit of information gives me a lot more ease and less stress on choosing where to put stats in case I am unhappy with the result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post

    The accuracy melds on WHM relic (and therefore, probably the SCH one too) is kinda messed up at.

    Not sure if this is a bug of some sort. It kinda feels like it is, but then again you'd think this is something that would have been fixed by now if it was considered such.
    I believe this is exactly as intended. The nine points are basically healer bonus. You can add an additional 35 maximum, which puts your total at 44 accuracy, just like every other weapon, however you still get those nine stats as bonus somewhere else.

    For instance, a summoner can have 44 accuracy and 31 crit, however a scholar relic can have 44 accuracy and 40 crit on it,since those first nine melds counted as tier 1 materia, but not towards your 75 total melds.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    I believe this is exactly as intended. The nine points are basically healer bonus. You can add an additional 35 maximum, which puts your total at 44 accuracy, just like every other weapon, however you still get those nine stats as bonus somewhere else.

    For instance, a summoner can have 44 accuracy and 31 crit, however a scholar relic can have 44 accuracy and 40 crit on it,since those first nine melds counted as tier 1 materia, but not towards your 75 total melds.
    It still seems very strange that it would influence the melds that way, because these are literally the only meldable stats (across all relics) that work in this bizarre way, and only for healer relics. It really feels like an oversight, to me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutsimaki View Post

    I stopped earning money and started giving it away.
    Can you move to Goblin and give me your money :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
    That accuracy thing is definitely something to think about. I was focusing on Spell Speed and Determination because I do not do anything offensive hardly at all, and really want potency and speed in my healing. Fortunately, if I read everything right, we can respec later on (even after we've moved on to the other stages). That bit of information gives me a lot more ease and less stress on choosing where to put stats in case I am unhappy with the result.
    Crit, DET and either Spell Speed/piety are good for a healer.

    Not sure if you're aware but Crit will boost your critical hits for healing spells, not just damage critical hits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
    That accuracy thing is definitely something to think about. I was focusing on Spell Speed and Determination because I do not do anything offensive hardly at all, and really want potency and speed in my healing. Fortunately, if I read everything right, we can respec later on (even after we've moved on to the other stages). That bit of information gives me a lot more ease and less stress on choosing where to put stats in case I am unhappy with the result.
    CRIT is an absolute must for every SCH, because whenever Adloquium crits, you'll give massive amount of shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutsimaki View Post
    22mil? I have 142mil an still refuse to spend 3mil on fat cat.
    Buy that Cat already...lol

    Anyways, Op I went with Crit, Acc adn Det on my scholar weapon. You cant really go wrong no matter what you do, in the end weapon damage matters the most. Well...dont put parry on Scholar weapon,,,that would be bad. If you plan on doing any Coils and Dps'ing some...consider some Acc. going with 3 stats will not make your weapon a "Noob" weapon". Going with 3 stats might make you RICH.
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    Altena Trife
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    Acc is fairly important if you plan to land anything for end game. It is quite difficult to cap acc on healer without acc on your relic. Good SCH dps in coil helps quite a lot. If nothing else - it helps you carry a bit of extra weight when some DPS aren't up to par.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Acc is fairly important if you plan to land anything for end game. It is quite difficult to cap acc on healer without acc on your relic. Good SCH dps in coil helps quite a lot. If nothing else - it helps you carry a bit of extra weight when some DPS aren't up to par.
    Well, Bio and Bio II don't require any accuracy to land, but if you want to land Miasma or Ruin, yeah, you need Accuracy.
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