Hunt Griefing: Solution to Community Woes?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

The only griefing that goes on in hunts are people who intentionally reset the mark.

[Kosmos992k]

The only griefing that goes on in hunts are people who intentionally reset the mark.

Indeed, this was - if i remember correctly - confirmed by a GM...

[Antanias]

The only griefing that goes on in hunts are people who intentionally reset the mark.

Not entirely true.

I ran into the S rank in South Shroud on chocoback completely on accident yesterday and, thus, tried to reset it so that people could arrive and party up in time. What happened instead? Other people started engaging the mark and it was dead a minute later. So no, accidentally aggroing a mark wasn't griefing in my case.

[RiceisNice]

The only griefing that goes on in hunts are people who intentionally reset the mark.

If it's the player's intent to get others upset (and on farmfruit, there's pretty much an entire FC of players who do this just for shits and giggles and make no attempt to hide it), it sounds like griefing to me.

It's a matter of the higher-ups actually doing something about it or drawing a clear line. They've already stated before that you can't really justify kicking players or mark it as griefing for "playing differently". Is it "early pulling"? Well no. Is the player a douchebag? Probably, considering that they're leeching off most ofmy LS's call outs, yet keep their own call outs to themselves. Can they be punished for being a douchebag? Most of the time, no. On the other end, is the intent of the player griefing when they reset a hunt mark? Why is that considered griefing when open trolling in CT raids isn't? It's all really backwards and just makes for a bad system in general.

I'm still on the side of "hunts was an absolutely terrible gimmick in 2.3, and still is in 2.5". Even if you're actively hunting or in a linkshell or two, unless you're in the same zone and aetheryte teleport (in the case of ELN), you're not getting to even an S rank in time because they will drop in a matter of seconds against the swarm of ilvl 120+ players. And all of that is not including the increased load times or the rendering issues that still persists.