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  1. #31
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    Moqi's Avatar
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    Goji Degotye
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    I just don't understand why they need endgame gear without any useful way to use it
    So what? I have no idea either but it does not affect me in any way so who cares. Why would I be against it? What they do with it it's their business. Everyone has its own way of having fun, if they like to do Wanderer's Place HM in 130 let them.

    The problem is that a majority of ppl think that raiders are elitists, but they're wrong.
    When you think people shouldn't get gear to a certain ilvl because they don't raid, you are.
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  2. #32
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utsu View Post
    I'm not saying that at all, what the hell...

    It's not about "you don't deserve", it's about "you don't need it", did you really read my posts ?

    Come on, please, could you please stop calling us elitists when you seem to feel inferiors by yourself with your bad interpretations ?

    And you have the entire game, FCoB is not closed.
    But you don't need ilvl 130 gear to clear FcoB so why complain about others getting it who do not raid?
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    When you think people shouldn't get gear to a certain ilvl because they don't raid, you are.
    I find it highly amusing when people talk about bis this and that and maximizing secondary stat when they don't do coil though.

    That's like ricing up your car with nitro and stuff to take your niece to school.
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  4. #34
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    I find it highly amusing when people talk about bis this and that and maximizing secondary stat when they don't do coil though.

    That's like ricing up your car with nitro and stuff to take your niece to school.
    Again why does having to do coil seem like the only way ur aloud to max out your char? People back in (other mmo with pandas) would try max stats without raiding because idk they liked to obtain gear and max out their char.
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  5. #35
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    Utsu Aensland
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    I'll repeat again : it's not about "they shouldn't get" or "they don't deserve".

    My feeling is that i130 gear is designed for raiders to optimize themselves (hardcore theorycraft, hardcore raid trials like solohealing and speedkills, etc) because i120 is enough for everything else.

    That's why I'm wondering why everyone want endgame gear without any "hardcore" endgame goal.

    "Why complain" ? I do not.
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    Last edited by Utsu; 02-11-2015 at 10:05 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Again why does having to do coil seem like the only way ur aloud to max out your char? People back in (other mmo with pandas) would try max stats without raiding because idk they liked to obtain gear and max out their char.
    Why are you so offended? I only said I find it amusing, not that people shouldn't do what they do. You're attacking my freedom of thought here.

    Are you some kind of thought elitist?
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  7. #37
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    As a SMN I support this idea.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Why are you so offended? I only said I find it amusing, not that people shouldn't do what they do. You're attacking my freedom of thought here.

    Are you some kind of thought elitist?
    No im the thought police.


    And im not offended i couldnt careless, i just think people shouldn't get up in arms because casual non raid players get to use the same items as hardcore raiders.
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  9. #39
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    Omg yes please, the summoner itemization issue will be somewhat solved!
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  10. #40
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taei View Post
    Can you also let us upgrade the WoD items to i130 please? It will just give us that many more choices to play around with without really breaking the game.
    Can you upgrade the ST gear to ilevel110 after ST give you sand of time?

    I doubt SE change the pattern before 3.0
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    Last edited by Felis; 02-11-2015 at 10:41 PM.

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