Tired of dungeons yet?

[Jynx]

Explain to me how people who have run the instance 50 times a week, the instance that is the pinnacle of current "end game" content in the game, have an advantage over the rest of us. Let them run it as many times as they want, and with whoever they want.

It's a dangerous precident to be setting, unless you want all of the good items from dungeons to be either.

A: Really damn hard to get.
B: All Rare/ex.

The content has almost worn it's usefullness to alot of people allready, while I may not partake in the dungeons I can see the downside of such a system. How popular would have Dynamis been in XI if people could enter however many times, and whenever they wanted?

The rewards would be everywhere, the Artifact armour was designed to be some of the best gear in the game period, and aside from time investment and a bit of luck it was extremly easy to get if you removed those factors.

I'm not saying have rediculous restrictions, I'm just saying that unlimited access will cheapen the content as a whole and negate alot of the positive effect it can have on the game. I'm sorry if the rank 50's want to be able to deck their characters out in a few days time but this kind of stuff should at least have some kind of restriction.

[Destain]

Did you even read my post or did you just assume it's an invitation to white knight it?
I wasn't talking about how fun the dungeons are or how challenging the content in them is. I was simply stating that they are poorly designed in a sense that the content in them is very shallow. Outside of few new pieces of gear that are a novelty because there isnt anything else there is nothing enduring thing about them.
Lets take XI dynamis as an example, years since release and people still do it because some piece of gear is really good or really cool looking. Now in XIV everything is meh.
Also, I've seen pictures of all the gear, it's all reskinn or something very close and meh. Like I said once AF comes out, people will just grind to AF like in XI because it's better exp than dungeons.

if white knighting it means pointing out the fact that you haven't played it so your opinion on it's depth or quality is based soley on what you've read on other forums then I will white knight it so hard. Bottom line is your another person called out for making criticizisms without having played it. I'm going to review a resturaunt without having dined there, I think I'll write "there is nothng great about them, huge design flaws". You must be a top developer to decipher this information without experiencing it.

Yeah, I get it, you wants ur endgames content. How many years into xi was it before dynamis was added? This was not supposed to be end game or substantial story content, just a crowd pleasing activity. I'd figure with how much you post you would have read that. I'm sorry, I rarely post but the ridiculousness of this thread, or some of it's critic/posters i should say, was something I wanted to be addressed. Again, the post was are you tired of the dungeons, not fix this dungeon, what do you think of it? This would mean to me is that the thread was meant for people actually playing the dungeons to comment on. if you came back saying you had experienced the dungeons to some degree your argument might have a sliver of merit. Go experience them and if your opinion is the same I 100% respect that, if you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, IMO... Lol...
I await your undoubtedly defensive rebuttal. For some reason I don't think your going to admit the giant loophole in your argument.

love,
Heavy D

[Murugan]

It's a dangerous precident to be setting, unless you want all of the good items from dungeons to be either.

A: Really damn hard to get.
B: All Rare/ex.

The content has almost worn it's usefullness to alot of people allready, while I may not partake in the dungeons I can see the downside of such a system. How popular would have Dynamis been in XI if people could enter however many times, and whenever they wanted?

The rewards would be everywhere, the Artifact armour was designed to be some of the best gear in the game period, and aside from time investment and a bit of luck it was extremly easy to get if you removed those factors.

I'm not saying have rediculous restrictions, I'm just saying that unlimited access will cheapen the content as a whole and negate alot of the positive effect it can have on the game. I'm sorry if the rank 50's want to be able to deck their characters out in a few days time but this kind of stuff should at least have some kind of restriction.

I don't know are you joking?

Dynamis would have been more popular, and vastly more enjoyable if it didn't have such stupid restrictions. Seriously do you have any idea how long it took people to get Relic Weapons the first time? That was not a friendly design at all.

Rare gear should drop rarely, and equipment's quality should be related to how difficult it is to obtain at. No where is there a need to place stupid artificial restrictions to maintain rarity. This is a game's itemization we are talking about not the Federal Reserve. Just because other people have the same item as you, assuming the same amount of work to get it, does not in anyway impact its worth to players.

Besides encouraging the selling of such high end gear, while I don't have a problem with it being tradeable, should not be the end goal of itemization. NM gear was ridiculously overfarmed in the long period that it was the only endgame content in the game, and yet it even still has value. I think you are blowing it out of proportion, especially because like you said you haven't done instances.

[Destain]

Great you think outside the box, don't you cheif.

Why don't they use them fansy lev functions they have allready and give people a set ammount of entry tokens a day? I don't give a shit if they do all 3 runs in the span of 20 seconds, as long as there is some form of limitation to it. "Weekend warriors" as you call them get the shaft because they can't dedicated the time to do 50 runs in one day, why should those other people have such an overwhelming advantage over everyone else?

Limiting the ammount of times one can enter instanced content not only makes it more fair for people who can't invest the time, it also helps restrict the flow of new items and grants some longevity to the content. Instead of being mastered and figured out withing a few weeks it may have taken us longer to get everything down pat.

There is a fine line between being accesable content, and being almost pointless content. These dungeons in a few meere weeks will be untouched thanks to SE allowing such wanton access to them.

I don't want people reading your posts thinking you actually know anything about game balance.

I get what you mean but I must jus have a different view. I agree tha leve restrictions are bs, especially after the sp rebalancing. I see the time constraints your advocating implementing as more of an advantage to the hardcore. The hardcore player will be on at all three runs regardless of the time of day. I am for the most part a weekend warrior. I can get on line and crank out 2 or 3 runs in a night. I guess I don't understand complaining about not having to wait for an arbitrary timer to reset before I can do something I want to, in leves or in dungeons. I must be too much of an idiot. Silly me, applying basic logic to my reasoning. I shouldn't be able to walk into a cave I was just in... If this was a besieged type event or something large and special like the pending ifrit fight I'd agree with you.

Respectfully,
Destain Xiv

[Ichi]

I'm not bored at all, still want a few pieces of gear still want to help the whole ls get perfect at 4 chest and speed runs. Lots to do.

[Cichy]

if white knighting it means pointing out the fact that you haven't played it so your opinion on it's depth or quality is based soley on what you've read on other forums then I will white knight it so hard. Bottom line is your another person called out for making criticizisms without having played it. I'm going to review a resturaunt without having dined there, I think I'll write "there is nothng great about them, huge design flaws". You must be a top developer to decipher this information without experiencing it.

Yeah, I get it, you wants ur endgames content. How many years into xi was it before dynamis was added? This was not supposed to be end game or substantial story content, just a crowd pleasing activity. I'd figure with how much you post you would have read that. I'm sorry, I rarely post but the ridiculousness of this thread, or some of it's critic/posters i should say, was something I wanted to be addressed. Again, the post was are you tired of the dungeons, not fix this dungeon, what do you think of it? This would mean to me is that the thread was meant for people actually playing the dungeons to comment on. if you came back saying you had experienced the dungeons to some degree your argument might have a sliver of merit. Go experience them and if your opinion is the same I 100% respect that, if you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, IMO... Lol...
I await your undoubtedly defensive rebuttal. For some reason I don't think your going to admit the giant loophole in your argument.

love,
Heavy D

You fail at analogies. Yes I wouldn't review a restaurant without trying it. But I can say I wont try this dish at a restaurant because I dont think it's cooked properly and I know I wont enjoy it.
Oh and dont give me "how many years before dynamis was added?" that excuse was OK in 2002. Another STFU and wait for next patch huh. Smart.

[mysterytaru]

You fail at analogies. Yes I wouldn't review a restaurant without trying it. But I can say I wont try this dish at a restaurant because I dont think it's cooked properly and I know I wont enjoy it.
Oh and dont give me "how many years before dynamis was added?" that excuse was OK in 2002. Another STFU and wait for next patch huh. Smart.

No, his analogy was spot on. You still can't comment on the meals without having eaten there. You! Are! Wrong! Thanks for playing.

[Pulseczar]

I haven't gotten tired of them at all. As a matter of fact—I can't wait till the next dungeon night. My LS does them 1 to 2 nights a week so we don't get sick of them so quickly.

[Jynx]

I get what you mean but I must jus have a different view.

Respectfully,
Destain Xiv

I guess I'll just chalk it up to a difference of opinions, I myself don't tend to participate in endgame content much if at all due to my playstyle.

I personally think that if Dynamis didn't have it's "Arbitrary" rules that it would have been dead, years before they killed it off with the level cap increase in XI. Dynamis remained a steady occurance for years because of the rarity and time constraints on when one could go.

Just being a hard drop doesn't always make it hard to get, as it stands in XIV if you could sell the Rare/ex items the game has there would be no market for any item that isn't one.

[Dyne]

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