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    Martin_Arcainess's Avatar
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    Martin Arcainess
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    A new skill! 20 sec job change! Idea.

    So here's a idea, A new special ability that allows us to switch to a similar Job role for let's just say 20 secs during battles. This allows us to have more starts and options for people to do in game but to stop it from being too OP job switch is restricted to what job you can switch to. so:

    PLD can swap to WAR's for 20 sec *vice versa* so can do some WAR combo's.

    WHM <-> SCH

    MNK <-> DRG

    NIN <-> BRD

    or a Melee DPS class can switch to another Melee DPS class.

    Also once used all status effects will be removed from gained 2nd job I.E you poped HG before reverting back to WAR so HG will be lost as soon as change back.

    And it will be on a CD of course, say 2mins?
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    Flare Oskopnir
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    According to forum current mood, you may need some for incoming replies.
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    Ashrak Teriel
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    WHM/SCH -> BLM would be so much more fun.
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    Quin Decim
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    quick everyone switch to a dps class while this boss is charging his wipe move and lets blitz him down before he finishes completely disregarding the mechanics!

    yeah no, alot of dungeons are becoming tank and spank already this would just finalize the nail in that coffin
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    Temisu Namisu
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    There's a reason why we can't just change jobs mid battle (which would be the simplest option to implement this): it would be impossible to balance a fight around this. You can already see how much going against the 2/2/4 recommendation can change the way a battle goes. Being able to switch, even momentarily to 8 DPS for a last burst down or 1 Tank/7 Healers to counter high damage phases, would just break certain encounters.

    Even with a cool down on it (and 2 minutes would be way too short for this kind of brokenness), you'd still use it almost like a second limit break that you have total control over using, to make specific points of a fight incredibly trivial.

    Another big downside is that this would require a player to have that other job at lv50 and they may not have any desire to do that beyond leveling them to get the key abilities needed. Whilst the game encourages you to level up multiple classes, it does not force you to level them all to max level. I can think of a lot of players who would hate the game for this kind of system. And then you'd have to consider the requirements that players would set for groups. "Oh, you only have WHM and not SCH? Then you can't be in this party."

    No.
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    This guy ^_^
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    Anneliese Sibyl
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    Okay lemme go switch to tank real quick so I can roll need on the tank loot.
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    Martin Arcainess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    There's a reason why we can't just change jobs mid battle (which would be the simplest option to implement this): it would be impossible to balance a fight around this. You can already see how much going against the 2/2/4 recommendation can change the way a battle goes. Being able to switch, even momentarily to 8 DPS for a last burst down or 1 Tank/7 Healers to counter high damage phases, would just break certain encounters.

    Even with a cool down on it (and 2 minutes would be way too short for this kind of brokenness), you'd still use it almost like a second limit break that you have total control over using, to make specific points of a fight incredibly trivial.

    Another big downside is that this would require a player to have that other job at lv50 and they may not have any desire to do that beyond leveling them to get the key abilities needed. Whilst the game encourages you to level up multiple classes, it does not force you to level them all to max level. I can think of a lot of players who would hate the game for this kind of system. And then you'd have to consider the requirements that players would set for groups. "Oh, you only have WHM and not SCH? Then you can't be in this party."

    No.
    Then it can be simply edited changed to be balanced out. Not sure why your saying the whole party can change to DPS when I put

    PLD <-> War. Sticking it to Roles only would sort out the issue of everyone being a DPS class.

    Having the 2nd Job to 50 could be sorted out if you just need to get 1 Role to 50 and you choose any or set Roles to change into.
    Granted if that person hasn't gotten the other Job to LV50 yet they might not know how to handle it correctly but I think if we give them the option of being that class at LV50 only outside battle etc they can use it on training dummies. Or something we can sort out.

    Cool Down wise just increase it to a more suitable time, 11mins aprox boss fights? 5mins then, can use it twice.

    Just another heads up as people seemed to missed this, Setting it so you can switch Role to the same Role only would solve the 8 DPS/Healer problem. I.E Tank jobs can only switch to another Tank job.

    For the loot issue can only be rolled on your base Job as you entered it in.
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    Last edited by Martin_Arcainess; 02-07-2015 at 09:47 PM.

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    Shiki Lockhart
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    Oh shit! Big move is coming! Lets all change to paladin and pop hallowed ground! -_-
    Nice try OP :x
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  10. #10
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    Martin Arcainess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiki_Lockhart View Post
    Oh shit! Big move is coming! Lets all change to paladin and pop hallowed ground! -_-
    Nice try OP :x
    Either you replied after my reply or misread my post it's Same role only.

    So a DPS can't switch to a Tank Role or a Tank Role switch to a healer role.
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