Is pre-buffing neccessary?

[Synestr]

I agree with what Kisa said. As healer your priority is healing. Like if your a tank your priority is tanking, not DPSing or healing etc...

When I go heals, that's my mentality. I know I can DPS, and do often, but I am on heals. I pay attention to that first. The difference I think is knowing mechanics and fights. What is coming when and know how to deal with it.

As said above, SS+reg/Aldo etc., before pull is the perfect amount of buffer you need to throw out your dots/dps before a heal is called for. Once you need to heal pop out of CS and do your job. Then back in after you reapply SS+reg/Aldo and repeat.

Too many times now I see heals not doing these things. Not even the DPS portion, the not buffing and then just waiting around. I think we need a mentoring system out there for the newer heals that are coming up. They aren't getting the "education" we earned when content was..tougher?

my 2g

[AskaRay]

Decided to go as SCH to ST yesterday for my weekly quest chain. Was in there with another SCH. I don't think they had Stoneskin, not once did they cast it. Just me. Same with an expert run yesterday, went as PLD. Had a SCH heals in teh group...again I did the SSing. I don't know if the new "idea" is that it's not necessary or what but it seems lazy to me.

Well, as a SCH I don't have SS yet... (I AM working on it now, though) Like, I really just don't like playing as CNJ, and when I had to level it to unlock sch in the first place, I had to take a break from it after that. I mean, I am going back to get the skill now because I am aware of how important it is, but at first I wasn't sure if I was going to like sch enough to make leveling a class I don't like for a skill worth it. (Do like Sch a lot, though, so that's why I'm getting SS now).

You could always check to see if they had cnj/whm leveled up enough for it.

[Synestr]

@ Aeon: True, I can check that but that is my lazy kicking in. Not a huge deal as I understand leveling a separate class just for a skill is a PITA. I NEVER...repeat, NEVER wanted to heal in XIV. I have never healed in any MMO. Not my bag. I took CNJ to 15 for my PLD quest and left it there for what seemed like ever. I knew I had to get SS, just for its good utility, but GDI, I had to go another 14 lvls on CNJ for it. Same for BLM and Quelling strikes. I never wanted to play as ARC, but the skill was useful so I did it. Never even converted to BRD, left it as 34 ARC lol.

Funny thing is, as I was lvl'ing up CNJ I discovered healing in XIV is actually fun. So I went past the skill lvl needed for SS and took it all the way. Now I have them all at cap, but it is daunting to get started on another job/class when you are so into the one you consider your main. So I am definitely on level there. I also think it's good for WHM to lvl and play as a SCH and vice versa. It gives great depth of understanding for the role of healer IMO. Knowing what the other can and or cannot do is really nice, let's you work really well together.

[Coldheart]

Real situation: "Basic Training: Enemy Strongholds" guildhest. The healer was a Scholar. He refused to cast Protect.

His arguments: 1) "I don't have Protect in my cross-class list"; 2) "This guildhest is too easy, so Protect is unnecessary".

Thoughts?

[DarkerOrange]

At lvl 11 you get 1 (I think) cross class skill, which for me and plenty of other SCHs is Cleric Stance, so casting protect isn't always possible. If you have Protect available, you should always cast it though.

[SpookyGhost]

Don't play heals, mainly WAR, but I've never really cared about Adlo pre-pull. It's more a safety cushion for the SCH to apply their DoTs than for me. Auto Attacks aren't going to make me pop a CD or anything. Adlo pre-pull is optimal and takes only 2.5s, don't get me wrong, but it's not the end of the world not to have it going in.

(Haven't read all of the topic, dunno if discussion has changed, just thought I'd put in my 2c on the OP's post.)

[Cynfael]

Real situation: "Basic Training: Enemy Strongholds" guildhest. The healer was a Scholar. He refused to cast Protect.

His arguments: 1) "I don't have Protect in my cross-class list"; 2) "This guildhest is too easy, so Protect is unnecessary".

Thoughts?

The SCH was correct.

Cleric Stance is more valuable for low-level content. The fairy overheals such content, especially if micro'd, and you wouldn't even notice the lack of Protect.

[Yukariko]

Absolutely pre buffs should go on first, protect (for all) stoneskin (maybe for all - I'm a scholar) and Adlo for the tank
Why?
Cos those 2 extra buffs of stoneskin and adlo will give the tank a few extra seconds to gain hate/group up mobs before i have to start actually healing them.

[Kazumac]

Real situation: "Basic Training: Enemy Strongholds" guildhest. The healer was a Scholar. He refused to cast Protect.

His arguments: 1) "I don't have Protect in my cross-class list"; 2) "This guildhest is too easy, so Protect is unnecessary".

Thoughts?

Yes first cross class when I SCH is cleric stance. By the time I'm running content that the fairy can't handle healing without protect my second cross class skill will be available.

[aisustrong]

Real situation: "Basic Training: Enemy Strongholds" guildhest. The healer was a Scholar. He refused to cast Protect.

His arguments: 1) "I don't have Protect in my cross-class list"; 2) "This guildhest is too easy, so Protect is unnecessary".

Thoughts?

yeah, protect is completely unnecessary for that
hell, I've done that as cnj before with a total of 2 cure 1s

the damage output in that is basically non existent

you should be perfectly fine leaving protect until your level 30 cross class