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    I don't know anything about server maintenance, so can anyone explain why such a minor hotfix takes 3 hours to implement? I guess it's not as simple as set dyeable flag to on, reboot, done?

    edit: So what about all the other event items? Why not set all those to dyeable as well? That would be so much better than getting 4 recolors of the same animal head every new year...
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    Those are just the changes they made to the "visible" game, anything that has to do with server maint such as any possible hardware/software upgrades, scans to check for corruption, and other various routine steps aren't listed since it would most likely be meaningless to us without knowing specifics about servers/game that isn't public knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Those are just the changes they made to the "visible" game, anything that has to do with server maint such as any possible hardware/software upgrades, scans to check for corruption, and other various routine steps aren't listed since it would most likely be meaningless to us without knowing specifics about servers/game that isn't public knowledge.
    I understand what you mean to say, but SE could have specified something like that in the hotfix information. Just call it what it is then. But don't just make something dyeable and take 3 hours to do it. SE has been very good about being transparent about what they plan to do. I wish that transparency would also be reflected during maintenance. As a paying customer, I deserve to know the real reason why my service is being interrupted and when it will be restored. Just like any other service provider does for its customers.
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    And seriously... indulge me this:

    How come Final Fantasy XI can do partial maintenance, where players don't even have to log out (usually just have to zone out from affected zones), and Final Fantasy XIV - A "Realm Reborn", has to do a "full" logout maintenance everytime?

    I've been pointing this out in various thread many... many times. Could someone really explain and not treating us like fools?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    And seriously... indulge me this:

    How come Final Fantasy XI can do partial maintenance, where players don't even have to log out (usually just have to zone out from affected zones), and Final Fantasy XIV - A "Realm Reborn", has to do a "full" logout maintenance everytime?

    I've been pointing this out in various thread many... many times. Could someone really explain and not treating us like fools?
    I think during the early days of 2.0 there were times where certain zones received maintenance while others were left alone without going offline. Also, certain zones occasionally receive maintenance when a particular server or data center experience technical difficulties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    And seriously... indulge me this:

    How come Final Fantasy XI can do partial maintenance, where players don't even have to log out (usually just have to zone out from affected zones), and Final Fantasy XIV - A "Realm Reborn", has to do a "full" logout maintenance everytime?

    I've been pointing this out in various thread many... many times. Could someone really explain and not treating us like fools?
    Is valentines gear a zone? Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Is valentines gear a zone? Yeah.
    Depends on how big your butt is?

    seriously, if that was the reason for the update, its pathetic. Actually its beyond pathetic.... to the level that makes me wonder why i bother subscribing to a company that thinks so little of their customers.

    For all of us on the west coast, the game went off at 9pm. I hate that the NA servers get maintenance in the middle of their prime time, and for that garbage? seriously?

    PS before all the players on a continent other then NA get pissy, yes i think that the eu servers should be in europe, and maintenance should not be within the playtime for the majority of that targeted player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    And seriously... indulge me this:

    How come Final Fantasy XI can do partial maintenance, where players don't even have to log out (usually just have to zone out from affected zones), and Final Fantasy XIV - A "Realm Reborn", has to do a "full" logout maintenance everytime?

    I've been pointing this out in various thread many... many times. Could someone really explain and not treating us like fools?
    This isn't just a server side fix. They are going to release a patch. They can't activate the servers till that new patch is deployed otherwise people will log in with outdated clients or try to login with new clients on outdated servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    I understand what you mean to say, but SE could have specified something like that in the hotfix information. Just call it what it is then. But don't just make something dyeable and take 3 hours to do it. SE has been very good about being transparent about what they plan to do. I wish that transparency would also be reflected during maintenance. As a paying customer, I deserve to know the real reason why my service is being interrupted and when it will be restored. Just like any other service provider does for its customers.
    maybe they should write down their entire daily work schedule for you, so you know what's going on.
    get into the technicalities about how server maintenance, works.
    would that be sufficiently transparent?
    It was a maintenance...they did what they do every maint, and then they *fixed* those gear, during maint.
    maint takes 3hrs, making gear dyable, doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiotsukete View Post
    edit: So what about all the other event items? Why not set all those to dyeable as well? That would be so much better than getting 4 recolors of the same animal head every new year...
    Some of the items, like the yukata, have more than one color as "primary". The Valentione outfits only have three colors: Red, white, and black, with Red being primary.
    The only other outfit I can think of that would be worth being made dyeable would be the christmas outfits...but that would take away what makes them christmas outfits, while the valentione outfits aren't specifically tied to their holiday.
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