soo are the dragons really the enemy?

[Doki]

Some humans were really messed up to dragons. Dragons DGAF that the humans around now are not the same as the ones that imprisoned them in a space rock along with bahamut to keep him summoned eternally as a power source. In a lot of the storyline the humanoid races are still the big bad guys.

[EdwinLi]

Some humans were really messed up to dragons. Dragons DGAF that the humans around now are not the same as the ones that imprisoned them in a space rock along with bahamut to keep him summoned eternally as a power source. In a lot of the storyline the humanoid races are still the big bad guys.

Interesting thing I heard is that the song "Answer" is said to be about Bahamut and the dragons suffering from imprisonment in Dalamud but those are just rumors I heard.

[myahele]

When I think of it; Ishgard kinda looks like that aetherial wand that Moenbryda had. Since Ishgard is such a close proximity to Silver Tear Lake then I wonder if Ishgard is stealing aether to power up the barrier +whatever.

What if the Pope also has a similar device (staff) that Loisoix had?

[jomoru]

The Archbishop in Ishgard is clearly being manipulated by the Ascians, so I believe that we are actually fightin on BEHALF of the Dragons, as opposed to against them.

This also makes sense in that fact that the Au Ra are *SUPPOSEDLY* the offspring of Saint Shiva and dragons. As such, Ishgardians hunted them as abominations, driving them out of Eorzea towards Othard. Now that they've returned with Lady Yugiri, they're probably as eager to fight the Ishgardians, as they are embracing their draconic forebears.

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There's no evidence for this whatsoever, never once has there been any connection to SHiva stated about the AuRa

[LalaRu]

Dragons were the good guys, mortal men were deceived by Ascians, that wanted conflict for their interests (awaken of their god), and Ishgard will burn.

[Wildsprite]

This also makes sense in that fact that the Au Ra are *SUPPOSEDLY* the offspring of Saint Shiva and dragons.

nice of you to make up your own story based on things some of the players came up with. the Au Ra have no connection to the Dravanian Horde. this has been stated by the devs themselves. it is highly unlikely they have any relation to Shiva as well. we don't even know that they are part dragon(though this is likely)
what we know about the Au Ra is little to nothing with the exception of they come from Othard.
for all we know they could be of relation to some sort of lizards.

[Saseal]

My vote is on 'No, not the enemy'. xD Just the Ascians creating and fueling the war. Hell, maybe they're both (dravonians and ishgardians) being manipulated from the very beginning.... (hell... who's to say they weren't at it from the very very very beginning.... I thought I remember seeing something mentioned about a dragon was killed when the Ishgardians first came to the land, and thats when shit started to fly... maybe they were manipulated into killing... but my memory is crap :/)

It would be awesome if the Ascian influence was outted, inside turmoil made and power-in-charge turned over - then possibly new relations between the two created...
Hell, maybe it's not Dravonian vs Ishgardian in the end, but becomes Drav and Ishgard vs the Ascian and Ishgardian higherups (sorry, the name of their people in charge is eluding me atm x.x) xD *wild speculations, just because*

[EdwinLi]

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That may fit into what we learned in 2.5 being Midgar is in a contract to protect the Source of Aether. In 2.5 we learned the contract Midgar has is with Hydaelyn so what if Ishgard has been draining the Source of Aether to power their city. This may essentially mean Ishgard may be the reason why Hydaelyn is dying since Ishgard may be sucking the life out of Hydaelyn which may be the reason why the Ascians would want to hold control of Ishgard.

If the Ascians can continuing to control Ishgard, Ishgard may continue to drain Hydaelyn's life until she dies and the only way to stop Hydaelyn from dying is to destroy the thing in Ishgard that is draining Hydaelyn's life which would be one possible reason why the dragons may be obsessed with destroying Ishgard and may be the "Sin" Midgar speaks about.

[Wildsprite]

That may fit into what we learned in 2.5 being Midgar is in a contract to protect the Source of Aether. In 2.5 we learned the contract Midgar has is with Hydaelyn so what if Ishgard has been draining the Source of Aether to power their city. This may essentially mean Ishgard may be the reason why Hydaelyn is dying since Ishgard may be sucking the life out of Hydaelyn which may be the reason why the Ascians would want to hold control of Ishgard.

If the Ascians can continuing to control Ishgard, Ishgard may continue to drain Hydaelyn's life until she dies and the only way to stop Hydaelyn from dying is to destroy the thing in Ishgard that is draining Hydaelyn's life which would be one possible reason why the dragons may be obsessed with destroying Ishgard and may be the "Sin" Midgar speaks about.

wow this actually would fit the story nicely. I wonder how close to right it might be

[EdwinLi]

wow this actually would fit the story nicely. I wonder how close to right it might be

I doubt since it is only specualtion I put together by the lores we are provided.

Though it would explain the Sin of their father being a Device the "fathers" of Ishgard made to power Ishgard by draining Hydaelyn's life and has been doing so even now. That would mean as long Ishgard remains or until the Device is destroyed the dragons will continue to attack Ishgard under the contract Midgar made with Hydaelyn.

Then comes the question where is the Device that is draining Hydaelyn's life located but I'm guessing it is under the City of Ishgard or some where in the center of Ishgard's infrastructure.



Though if true it would also set up maybe part of 3.X storyline being how Ishgard is now adjusting to life without the Device draining Hydaelyn's life to power their city.