New Jobs: Cross Class Skills? Thoughts?

[Cebo]

I think going forward they should get rid of the whole "2 sub-classes for each job." It only restricts our ability to customize. We already saw this happen when they added rogues, but no other job could cross-class any ROG skills. Goad would've been a great cross-class skill for Bards and other DoW's, but because Square is strictly adhering to the 2 sub-classes for each jobs, no one could make use of it.

Instead, Square should go down a list, ability by ability, and determine which jobs can cross-class it, whether for balance or lore reasons. Don't want DoW's having access to Cure/Physick/Stoneskin? Then simply don't allow it to be cross-classed by any DoW except for Paladins. If Raging Strikes is deemed too OP for monks, they can just disallow that individual ability, while still allowing other Bard abilities to be cross-classed.

[lyndwyrm]

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I'm also kinda hoping they move away from cross-class skills that are practically mandatory. I don't have much of a problem with things like SCH and protect because you have to have CNJ at 15 to get SCH, and you'll have protect by then, but the example with WAR and provoke can be annoying, also healers and swiftcast.

I believe untraited goad restores 200 (20/tick 1tick/3secs 30secs) and then ROG gets a trait that increases it to 300 (30/tick).

Cross-class skill slot number is an interesting speculation. Jobs have gotten 1/10lvs and classes have gotten 1/5lvs, but lv50 classes almost fill the window width with 10 abilities. They could definitely fit an 11th one in the window without changes and changing the window is definitely not out of the question. I'll expect the number of slots to increase to 6, since, at that rate they could still give us another slot every expansion at least until we hit lv100. Whether it increases like this depends upon where they want to go, and if they want to continue giving cross-classable abilities at lv50+.

Instead, Square should go down a list, ability by ability, and determine which jobs can cross-class it, whether for balance or lore reasons.

This would also be a great way to handle it, that way they wouldn't feel "locked-in" to giving a class abilities as part of a package deal, and they could ensure every class has useful abilities to borrow and lend.