Unfun fact: PSN is always down. EVERY. DAMN. DAY.

[Maero]

It was maintenance, PSN is not down every day and has not been attacked by ddos this year yet.
XBox Live on the other hand has been down like 5 times this year already

[Tiggy]

Unfun fact for the OP. Square can't do anything about this. Go complain to Sony for requiring all apps to sign into psn first.

[Dererk]

Solution: switch to PC.

this is not a solution because many of us prefer to use consoles for the game in tired of this PC master race crap they need to sever this requirement because the info that we all ready own the client or licensing or what ever is all ready on the hard drive of the ps3 4 and we shouldn't need psn limiting us on a game that's purely online based.

[Tanthalus]

Been on all day. And the day before, and the day before....


You see where I'm taking this.

This is contusive of you never logging off not the issue of psn being down. Sony has actually stated that if your logged into something you should be fine just as long as you don't log out.
I guess some of us just can't live in Eorzea. /shrug

[Eye_Gore]

The POINT of this thread is that psn downtime shouldn't need to affect ffxiv. Yes, it's Sony's issue. But the game doesn't use Sony's servers. They could just perform authentication once a week or something.

I though when any thread started off about the PSN being down was just code for a PC PS debate.

[Kosmos992k]

script kiddies are not hackers and ddos isn't hacking

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This. SO MUCH THIS.

I'm so sick of these small minded vandals being credited as hackers. The majority of them are nothing more than script kiddies who couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag with a sharp knife. There are exceptions to that of course, but a DDOS attack is certainly not hacking the target.

One other thing that pisses me off no end when a DDOS attack happens is that some bright spark always chips in (almost always referring to Sony) claiming that a) this is an example of crappy security, and b) incompetence since they do nothing to stop it.

First of all, being a victim of a DDOS attack says nothing about your security since it may in fact be your perimeter that is being flooded with traffic so heavy that it can't respond to legitimate traffic and no amount of security software will prevent that.

Secondly, the attacks are launched from 'botnets with hundreds of thousands of systems all around the 'net, there is no single system generating the attack. If you have millions of incoming data packets that all require a response and they're coming from hundreds of thousands of source addresses, it's not exactly easy to simply turn them off, block them or otherwise ignore them. You can't ignore them precisely because every one of them is potentially a legitimate request to the server. It's not like the data packets for a DDOS attack arrive labeled <#DDOS Attack> or something, all of the traffic in a DDOS attack can look legitimate until it's handled by the targeted server(s).

A DDOS attack would be similar to trying to have a choir standing among a crowd of 100 thousand voices, and every time the choir starts to sing, 1000s of the others standing around them start singing nonsense. The cacophony of additional voices utterly drowns out the choir members. Since not every member of the crowd is singing at once, and not all of them sing at all, how does the choir leader know who to get rid of? Even if they change songs, the crowd can continue disrupting the choir simply by signing nonsense again.

Regarding this PSN outage...

It was maintenance

Not so sure about that, it was not scheduled, and PSN generally says it's undergoing maintenance when it get's knocked off line by some form of DDOS attack.

PSN is not down every day and has not been attacked by ddos this year yet.

Yes and no. Yes, PSN is not down every day. No, it appears that PSN may have been subject to a DDOS attack this year. PSN is not a single entity, there are many gateways to PSN. Part of PSN could be down due to a DDOS attack or legitimate but unscheduled maintenance, leaving the rest up. For some users there may be uninterrupted service, while others may be affected.

Too many people cry wolf every time PSN does anything unexpected. However, there is no scheduled maintenance, so it's possible that some form of DDOS attack could be the root cause.

[Riardon]

Buy a PC. Profit. Thank me later.

[Edellis]

Or just don't be silly, and have both.

#Godrace

[KitanaiKoneko]

Oh look, another PC suggestion where you have to BUILD it AND buy Windows. So chuck that $412 figure. Only something pre-built is a fair comparison.

Ok, we'll add in windows 7 for $100. Then we'll subtract $60 for every year of PS+. It takes 2-3 hours to put together a PC, maybe a little bit more if its your first time.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

Ok, we'll add in windows 7 for $100. Then we'll subtract $60 for every year of PS+. It takes 2-3 hours to put together a PC, maybe a little bit more if its your first time.

You don't need PS+ to play FFXIV.