soo are the dragons really the enemy?

[kyuven]

The trailer also showed Iceheart....
Who wants to bet the "sin" involved Shiva?

[EdwinLi]

The trailer also showed Iceheart....
Who wants to bet the "sin" involved Shiva?

I can't see Iceheart as the Sin since she is the one who guided us to Midgar and warned us that something is wrong with the current Ishgard.

My best guess is that the Sin involves Ishgard allying themsleves with the Ascians or at least perform the Ascians work.

Speaking of appearance...

A fun little note about the 2.5 Part 2 section of the 2.5 trailer is that in the 2.5 Trailer you'll notice there is a mysterious Elezen Dragoon wearing a Black Dragoon Armor and wielding the Dragoon AF Weapon watching the Dragon's assault on Ishgard. I'm guessing that is Estinien from the Dragoon Job Quest.

[kyuven]

I can't see Iceheart as the Sin since she is the one who guided us to Midgar and warned us that something is wrong with the current Ishgard.

My best guess is that the Sin involves Ishgard allying themsleves with the Ascians or at least perform the Ascians work.

Speaking of appearance...

A fun little note about the 2.5 Part 2 section of the 2.5 trailer is that in the 2.5 Trailer you'll notice there is a mysterious Elezen Dragoon wearing a Black Dragoon Armor and wielding the Dragoon AF Weapon watching the Dragon's assault on Ishgard. I'm guessing that is Estinien from the Dragoon Job Quest.

I meant the ancient sin committed by the Ishgardians that royally cheesed off the dragons

[EdwinLi]

I meant the ancient sin committed by the Ishgardians that royally cheesed off the dragons

Which is what the Sin I am talking about.

It is possible that Ishgard founding and past actions by their ancestor may have involved the Ascians as well.

The Ascians have been setting their plans in motion for hundreds of years after all.

[Dererk]

Which is what the Sin I am talking about.

It is possible that Ishgard founding and past actions by their ancestor may have involved the Ascians as well.

The Ascians have been setting their plans in motion for hundreds of years after all.

Its way more than a hundred years since they been around since Alag had Bahumet sealed and they don't grow old or die in a normal way.

[EdwinLi]

Its way more than a hundred years since they been around since Alag had Bahumet sealed and they don't grow old or die in a normal way.

I said Hundreds of years, not a hundred years.

For all we know the Ascian's Origins may date back to before the 1st era of FF14 timeline began.

[Dererk]

Never cast judgment until you hear both sides and come to your own conclusion.

Ishgard has been at war with the dragons since they first settled in cortas it started when a great wyrm attacked them he lost his eye to their king the first asura dragoon. But we barely know the dragons side because despite their long lives I doubt they'd continue for this long unless they were about to start something big that can shake the realm.
We just don't have enough info to know which side is right.

Also there are a lot of dragons and their very strong I'm sure if they really just wanted to burn Isgard they'd have done so years ago.

And the fact that it was originally Isgard that started the Eorzean alliance during Almahigos invasion for the Black shroud and they closed them selves off during the Garmalds invasion blocking all type of communication says there's something very wrong going on the Acian presence just proves this fact.