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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parawill View Post
    Stacking Shell, Proshell (Protect + Traited WHM Shell) on top of Fey Covenant's would be very powerful.
    Well they could make it where Shell removes proshell.
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    I don't really see a point in adding in the spell Shell when Proshell does what you want but better. The word "Proshell" also includes the word Shell, which I do believe is just Square Enix's way of combining the two spells without needing to have to actually use Protect, Shell and then (Swiftcast+) Stoneskin II.

    What is your reason as to why you would like the spell Shell versus bringing in a White Mage that can use Proshell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parawill View Post
    I don't really see a point in adding in the spell Shell when Proshell does what you want but better. The word "Proshell" also includes the word Shell, which I do believe is just Square Enix's way of combining the two spells without needing to have to actually use Protect, Shell and then (Swiftcast+) Stoneskin II.

    What is your reason as to why you would like the spell Shell versus bringing in a White Mage that can use Proshell?
    Because I play scholar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcat9715 View Post
    Because I play scholar.
    I facepalmed so hard that my palm became my face...

    So by this logic, White Mages should get:
    Benediction with 3s recast
    A fairy pet too
    Shroud on a 1 minute recast
    unavoidable DoTs
    stoneskin as additional effect to Cure II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    So by this logic, White Mages should get:
    Benediction with 3s recast
    A fairy pet too
    Shroud on a 1 minute recast
    unavoidable DoTs
    stoneskin as additional effect to Cure II
    I could spin all day with that Benediction recast time! I'd love it LOL!
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    I facepalmed so hard that my palm became my face...

    So by this logic, White Mages should get:
    Benediction with 3s recast
    A fairy pet too
    Shroud on a 1 minute recast
    unavoidable DoTs
    stoneskin as additional effect to Cure II
    Hey, was just answering his question. He asked why should shell exist when I could just bring in a white mage. It's because I play scholar and so do alot of other people. Besides your list is a bit ridiculous.

    Strangely as I run through dungeons as either dps or tank I see very few WHM, but it seems that scholar has become the norm. You could have made the argument that proshell is there to make up for the fact that scholar has pets and can place barriers on people, and white mage is just a walking first aid.
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  7. #17
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    If anything is ridiculous, it's the existence of this topic.

    For starters: Any content where there is no white mage present, mainly due to 4-man content, has no significant magic damage flying around anywhere.
    Additionally: If there is continuous magic damage present, Eos' Fey Covenant actually offers more magical defense than Shell does for the moment you need it.
    Lastly: They're dungeons, content that has nearly no difficulty value. If you desperately -need- that magical defense effect on the tank to be able to make healing work, I simply don't know what to say.

    The list I mentioned may be ridiculous, but it's in line with your way of thinking: If there's no scholar for dungeons
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    SCH's dont have enough spells? I for one hope 2.0 brings new spells that REPLACE the lower lever spells, or simply improve on them passively. Gamepad hotbars are saturated enough already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    For starters: Any content where there is no white mage present, mainly due to 4-man content, has no significant magic damage flying around anywhere.
    Additionally: If there is continuous magic damage present, Eos' Fey Covenant actually offers more magical defense than Shell does for the moment you need it.
    Lastly: They're dungeons, content that has nearly no difficulty value. If you desperately -need- that magical defense effect on the tank to be able to make healing work, I simply don't know what to say.
    Fey Covenant has a short duration with a 120 cooldown time. Plus didn't I say that you can use scholar's pets as an argument as to why white mage has proshell. I believe that I said that in my last post. Your right the dungeon content isn't hard I was making more of an suggestion rather then a request(should really change the title). If this topic is so ridiculous why are you even here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_lego View Post
    SCH's dont have enough spells? I for one hope 2.0 brings new spells that REPLACE the lower lever spells, or simply improve on them passively. Gamepad hotbars are saturated enough already!
    True, if macros won't in the game it would be insanely hard to play scholar on gamepad.
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