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    Fandan Magpran
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyaceous View Post
    You're forgetting shorthand is considered standard and acceptable in online communications by any modern society. I'm not saying it's literary genius, but you'd have to be in a unique situation to even be typing in a forum or playing a game like this and not understand that.

    You can't assume he was being "curt" based off of what he said and the media you are referencing. If he actually spoke like that in real life, then maybe.
    Saying "holy?" is not shorthand. But if you're going to argue semantics and say that it is, it's certainly not a shorthand that is standard and acceptable. If it were standard, all shouts in Mor Dhona, all communication in CT, etc. would consist of emotionally vague one-word loaded questions.

    I would agree with you that there is a standard and acceptable shorthand, such as "LF1M MNK/NIN for FCoB static," "pulling," or even "ballad plz," but this is not that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyaceous View Post
    In your example #2, you say he was telling someone how to actually play, but he was actually asking a question. And no, the line was not "far before "holy?""
    No, the implication of the message was, "Your job is to Holy right now, and being that you're not, I'm getting upset."

    The existence of a question mark doesn't turn everything into an innocent question; if your boss comes to your desk and says, "Could you get me those numbers by the end of the day?" they're not actually asking you a question. The more directly applicable example is if it's 20 minutes until the end of the day, and your boss comes back and says, "Are you ever going to get me those numbers?" He's still not asking you a question; he's giving you a command. And he's getting upset.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyaceous View Post
    In example #3 you say he failed to micromanage his party, when in fact he made an emotionless suggestion that was met with him being removed from the party. So, can't really manage anything then.
    What I said was that he was trying to micromanage his party, when it wasn't his place to do so. I did get a little too abstract in that point, though, so it didn't come across as clear as it should have.

    But the suggestion certainly wasn't emotionless, unless you consider it emotionless in the sense that he didn't find it worth the time to clarify the connotation he was saying "holy?" in. So any reaction that he would have received would have been on him, because he thought the right course of action was to respond with an emotionally vague one-word loaded question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladyaceous View Post
    Then in conclusion, you say he acted selfishly in a team based activity. How do you possibly know this based off of what they said in the original post? It's impossible to ascertain that from what the op said happened. YOU believe he is making himself out to be the victim. Please read what people say from now on before judging them and calling them names. Give people some credit.
    The selfish action was trying to tell the WHM to Holy, because he wanted the run to go faster. Instead of playing the game with everyone and allowing everyone to fulfill their roles how they saw fit, he wanted the run to go his way.

    Like everyone else here, I have been in groups with many tanks who couldn't hold aggro, with DPS who consistently stand in AoEs, and with Healers who make me feel like I'm doing my job alone. But that's the nature of the beast; you put yourself in a social situation, and you have to deal with people who don't see the world, or their roles in a party, the same way you do. And there are many variables that determine what the polite way to handle the situation should be; you're on the right track if your party doesn't kick you. (And from what it sounds, he re-queued, then they left, then he laughed about it with the people who replaced them)

    The last thing that someone who isn't making themselves out to be the victim would do is go on the forums and make a thread about how they're a jerk who deserved to get kicked from a party.
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    Last edited by Inflorescence; 02-01-2015 at 11:40 PM. Reason: I put the italics in the quotes to try to make this more readable; for some reason, it was looking wall-of-texty