Let's have a round of applause for bringing grind parties front and center in FFXIV

[Sephr]

You're in between patches, they haven't implemented alternative content yet.

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[Neptune]

blah, blah, blah. I can't read so I'm going to tell someone to deal with problems that don't even concern them in the slightest.

Also, I'm surprised you didn't notice that this patch was cooking for over 3 months and the next patch doesn't even have a release date? It doesn't matter to me at all but think about people checking in with this game. I'm sure thousands of people have been turned away already. The dev team can do better than that, starting with the next mini patch.

[Sephr]

Also, I'm surprised you didn't notice that this patch was cooking for over 3 months and the next patch doesn't even have a release date? It doesn't matter to me at all but think about people checking in with this game. I'm sure thousands of people have been turned away already. The dev team can do better than that, starting with the next mini patch.

People checking in with the game will look in, see some progress, then go away for a few months and check in later. I assure you the dev team isn't aiming to make the game presentable to get people back *right now*, rather they're working to make it good for the PS3 release.

They've even said they regard the PS3 release as their last chance, and that's what they're aiming for. By then we'll see a lot more content that deals with these problems.

Besides that, the quests do generally keep improving each patch when new ones are added, what with it being an incremental process and all that. I'd expect by PS3 launch we'll have a good mix of the generic filler quests you get everywhere and the better chains we've come to expect from Final fantasy.

[Jennestia]

So the gist of the OP is:

"Make the game yet another boring, monotonous quest grind for progression."

Am I getting warm? You can make quests "fun" but they're just as monotonous since you do them over and over and over again to cap your level, kind of like what you do with party grinding.

[Preypacer]

So the gist of the OP is:

"Make the game yet another boring, monotonous quest grind for progression."

Am I getting warm? You can make quests "fun" but they're just as monotonous since you do them over and over and over again to cap your level, kind of like what you do with party grinding.

Meh... It's Neptune being Neptune... again.

His entire logic is "I have ideas that I know for a fact would be the best for the game. And I know they'd be best for the game, because they're my ideas." That's every one of his OPs in a nutshell.

Two of his favorite retorts to dissenting opinion are:

1. "You obviously are happy with the game the way it is and don't feel it needs to improve". This is a classic false dichotomy, a logical fallacy Neptune resorts to in practically every single post he makes.
2. "You just don't understand how much better his idea would be for the game". In other words, you can't possibly understand his point and simply *disagree* with it.. no no.. Surely its brilliance is simply beyond your understanding, because if you did understand" it, you would certainly agree with it.

The problem with Nep is he's completely in love with his own ideas and assumes that whatever he suggests is "right". And so, when you respond to him, you can only fall into two categories: 1) You agree with him, or 2) You're wrong.

This is why none of his threads can ever develop into a normal conversation and typically result in people basically ripping his posts apart, pointing out the flaws in his logic, calling him out on how he twists or distorts the facts and generally making him look like a complete fool. Eventually, he gives up on that thread and wanders off to start a new one to complain about something else and start the process all over again.

Perhaps if people just all ignored him and stop giving him the attention he obviously craves constantly... he'd get the picture and give it up.