How to handle being double teamed?

[TheWaywardWind]

Storm is double teamed as they usually are in Secure on Primal.

Most of the good Flames jumped to Adders on Primal and Flames has almost zero wins on this data center. Flames seem to have given up, LOL. Just went against an Excalibur premade that did nothing but head to Storm spawn, didn't even go mid... they basically handed Adders the win.

Not sure what games you've been playing, but from the ones I've played Mael is clearly last place.

It's usually a run between Adders or Flames before the Maelstrom decides to derp it up and attack the 2nd place position. Nobody really cares about Mael on Primal; it's either stop Adders winning streak or prevent Flames from breaking it.

[morerancor]

I find the issue with pulling hate, is getting targeted and running back for heals running thru them and jumping down the platform helps a lot I usually do this stealth then jump back up for a trick attack. With full CDs I can get the solo kill usually. Overextending is not a popular thing but I think it can be useful.

[Xenosan]

I find the issue with pulling hate, is getting targeted and running back for heals running thru them and jumping down the platform helps a lot I usually do this stealth then jump back up for a trick attack. With full CDs I can get the solo kill usually. Overextending is not a popular thing but I think it can be useful.

I like your style.

Baiting and over-extending are two very different things

[zeopower6]

Not sure what games you've been playing, but from the ones I've played Mael is clearly last place.

It's usually a run between Adders or Flames before the Maelstrom decides to derp it up and attack the 2nd place position. Nobody really cares about Mael on Primal; it's either stop Adders winning streak or prevent Flames from breaking it.

Did you look at the overall standings on Primal? There are maybe a small handful of Flames on there. And the win streaks/weekly wins that my linkshell has say otherwise. -shrug- I don't know what to tell you other than I am probably not in those games you speak of since there are usually two or three going at once in peak hours. One of my friends did have an extremely unlucky streak of 30 losses and 1 win last week while others had 16 wins and 1 loss so I'm not sure how that happened... I think a lot of newer players ended up in his games.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...ntline/weekly/

I will not dispute that Adders did well last week, but basically Flames are dead last in every game I play outside of 24 mans at like 3am.

In the above list when set to Primal there are a total of ...

51 Adders
37 Storm
13 Flames

I mean come on now... It used to be that Flames were our main competition but judging from some of the GC swapping pre-patch, that has changed. I mean, I know for a fact most of the top Flames PvPers on my server left for Adders just before 2.5, lol. I have some of them in my linkshell after all. I wish I played more last week since I usually try to get 100 matches in at least but I was busy with some new patch additions and crafting/gathering.

[TheWaywardWind]

Frontline standings =/= how well each GC does.
The standings in general are a very poor representation of how each GC does, because they only consider specific games at specific times for specific players rather than every match as a whole.

This is coming from someone who has topped the charts in both victories and total matches played multiple weeks in a row on my world. And feel free to look back on Malboro for proof; the top three in almost every category have been Flames, every single time, with lots of Adders and very few Mael.

Also, the link you posted only proves my point; the top person on there is an Immortal Flame, with many other Flames coming up behind him.

There are lots of Adders and very few Mael on that list.