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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    Rift was okay but SWTOR wasn't very successful.
    It was the fourth most profitable MMO in the world in 2013, and had microtransaction sales ranked just beneath WoW's in 2014. Subjectivity about game quality aside, it was absolutely successful.

    And considering SWTOR managed to build a freaking flight simulator into their themepark MMO while creating their housing system and releasing content patches and developing an expansion, I'm pretty sure your argument that making the housing system sensible and workable would suck up resources kind of falters.

    While FFXIV over all is really well designed and looking to get even better, their housing system is an abysmal failure when compared to any other competitive product on the market.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorOfSakura View Post
    But SE hasn't repeated holiday rewards at all, not really. The only ones they repeated were the 1.0 items that many players would never have had access to, and it was mostly done as a nostalgia thing. But now that we've started repeating ARR holidays, they're changing the rewards up. That's likely why we don't have an outfit for Valentione's. There wasn't a Barding last year. Instead we had a barding on Hatchingtide. We'll probably see the Spring holidays get the rewards switched up a bit. We have no clue what they're planning.
    Good points!
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Good points!
    Plus, thankfully most of the seasonal rewards were tradable and continue to be so, so many of them are still up on the MB! They might be a tad expensive now but it's definitely an alternative to the cash shop versions (which are actually untradable). Also, they've made it so that these outfits aren't unique rewards, the seasonal vendors usually sell them as well, so you can obtain multiples of certain ones and give them out or sell them later on.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorOfSakura View Post
    Plus, thankfully most of the seasonal rewards were tradable and continue to be so, so many of them are still up on the MB! They might be a tad expensive now but it's definitely an alternative to the cash shop versions (which are actually untradable). Also, they've made it so that these outfits aren't unique rewards, the seasonal vendors usually sell them as well, so you can obtain multiples of certain ones and give them out or sell them later on.
    Hmm. Yeah if there's alternatives for getting stuff to the cash shop I can't complain about that. Still wish the dev resources spent on furniture rewards got spent on something else though, I'd even take some more dinky fireworks over that XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Hmm. Yeah if there's alternatives for getting stuff to the cash shop I can't complain about that. Still wish the dev resources spent on furniture rewards got spent on something else though, I'd even take some more dinky fireworks over that XD
    I can understand that.

    But I think they're just trying to make the ability to furnish a house with something that isn't astronomically expensive. Most of the crafted furniture is insanely expensive because of the requirements for it.

    I also think we'll very likely see some gear and stuff for Little Ladies Day, since last year the only reward was a minion.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    I'm pretty sure your argument that making the housing system sensible and workable would suck up resources kind of falters.
    Go download minecraft. Rent a small server and start building away. You'll notice that at some time or another, your server will start to slow down as you constantly build. When you start approaching your max limitations, it'll be unbearable to play. At that point, you either pay more for a larger server or quit. Its the same concept here. We blow up all our resources and if our subscription prices can't cover anything else, than that's all we get. No new features, nothing.

    I don't get how its a faltered argument when we can test out this theory at this very moment. Its a reproducible theory!
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    If you look at sessurea's post, if you split the price of the FC house between several individuals, its easier to achieve. Most casuals may not have 10 million alone but when you combine your resources with several other casuals, that is different story.
    Really? All that post looks like to me is somebody bragging about their ability to earn gil and then making fun of the OP's point which is not difficult to understand by any measure and has absolutely nothing to do with asking for free housing.

    Medium housing starts at 30 mil for the lowest class plot and around 37 mil for the high class plot on populated servers and they typically sell out well before the price drops to a minimum so unless we were all on poor servers with the lowest pricing and lots of available plots splitting the cost even 3 ways is totally unreasonable for the average casual player. Not to mention with personal housing there is no option at all to split a house, you would need to form an FC with the people and purchase FC housing.

    Acting like there is not a problem when there isn't even enough plots for 10% of the server to own housing is silly in my opinion and asking them if they want a cookie for their bragging is hardly obnoxious considering the nature of what they posted, either way, I'll post what I want. :P

    Oh and by the way, you're playing on one of the poor servers so plots are half price on your server and readily available. Basically, you have no idea what it's like playing on a populated server where medium housing sells fast and is 30+ mil per plot.
    Source: http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Personal_Housing
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 01-31-2015 at 06:27 AM.

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    I was extremely excited to see housing items in a seasonal event. Can't wait to see what they come out with next. My house is FULL both inside and outside, but I tuck em' away in my retainers to see if I get a itch to re-decorate later on.

    Don't really see a reason not to release furniture items this way. They probably wouldn't add anything else in their place. The seasonal events before housing came out only had clothing, minions, some sort of consumable item and sometimes, but rarely, barding. Sometimes we only got one of the things. Like IIRC a Halloween event where we only got a ghost outfit or something. The last xmas event had clothing, minions, consumable items AND furniture. I haven't looked at what the current event gives, I just read somewhere that one of the items is barding which is cool.
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    Last edited by Elim; 01-31-2015 at 06:34 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    In the OPs words, if we don't have a house, what exactly are we supposed to do with furniture? Eat it?
    A) Get a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyttyn View Post
    what are we supposed to do with all of this furniture? eat it?
    That's generally the idea, yeah.

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